
Mind, Body, and Soil
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Reciprocal Living with Shele Jessee
Mind, Body, and Soil
03/29/22 • 115 min
Shele Jessee is a polymath. Rancher, shepherd, tanner, fashion designer, entrepreneur, and beyond, Shele Jessee of Hollow Bone shares a peek into her philosophy and life in the Central Coast of California. We talk about her journey back to the land and into the world of ranching alongside stories around the state of drought and trust in rural communities in the West. Shele weaves the magic of turning her relationship with nature tactile through hide tanning and slow fashion. We dive into reciprocal relationships - both on and off the land. Shele shares her ideas around creating and finding beauty in the every day - ideas that I’m sure will resonate with all listeners.
We Also Talk About
- Ranching on leased land
- Supply chains
- Intuition and living a life full of feeling
- Entrepreneurship
Resources:
Instagram: @_hollowbone_
Join the Ground Work Collective:
Instagram: @groundworkcollective
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The Dark Matter of Nutrition: Looking at Biodiversity and Agroecology in the Data with Dr. Stephan van Vliet
Mind, Body, and Soil
08/09/22 • 114 min
Dr. Stephan van Vliet is at the forefront of researching what he calls the ‘dark matter’ of nutrition. Beyond the nutrition facts panel, beyond just protein, fat, and carboyhydrates and beyond the vitamins and minerals we are familiar with lies a world called metabolomics where thousands and tens of thousands of compounds and phytochemicals exist. Dr. van Vliet is looking at these compounds and in how food is grown - whether it’s conventional, regenerative (which Dr. van Vliet refers to as agroecological) and whether it’s plant-based or animal-based agriculture. In this episode, we explore the nutrient cycle from soil to plant to animal to human and back to soil in depth. We look at biodiversity from the level of metabolomics, whether it’s diverse forage for cattle to graze, or a diverse array of species to nourish the soil, or diversity in the human diet. We discuss everything from older animals, water in the West, what flavor may indicate, seasonality and how it influences the compounds in meat, and so much more.
We also talk about:
- Are older animals more rich in phytonutrients?
- How seasonality influences phytonutrient content
- Can humans have the innate wisdom in their food choices we see in animals?
- Do we have tunnel vision when it comes to greenhouse gases?
- Farmer Pprotests in the Netherlands (Dr. van Vliet is from the Netherlands)
Find Dr. van Vliet
Twitter: @vanvlietphd
Be a part of Dr. Vanvliet’s Research on Beef: Bionutrient Institute
Further Reading:
Life in the Rocky Mountains by Warren Angus Ferris
Related Ground Work Episodes:
Chewing the Fat with Brad Marshall
Other Podcasts featuring Dr. van Vliet:
On Peak Human
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- 15% off Farm True ghee and body care products using code: KATEKAV15
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Learning to Come Home to Yourself with Lacey Jean
Mind, Body, and Soil
07/19/22 • 126 min
Lacey Jean is. Lacey Jean is many things, a polymath at heart, at once butcher, mobile processor, hide tanner, shearer, and shepherdess but none of the many hats she wears defines Lacey Jean. This is one of those incredibly juicy conversations where you walk away feeling more alive for it, dripping with honesty and earnestness, triumph and failure, and the meandering path we are all taking as we try to find home within ourselves. As Lacey embarks on building her own Geodome home by hand in the Pacific Northwest, she muses about what it’s taken to build a home in herself. Already, as she has started to move in, she has noticed how living in the round is changing her mindset and we explore the round robustness of cycles - from life to death and back into life again. Along the way, we talk about all the skills she has built to get here and what it means to be capable. Lacey talks about holding death as a butcher and mobile processor but also what it means to let parts of your self and your dreams go so others can take root. Lacey's story is incredibly inspiring and everyone will find wisdom in this conversation!
We also talk about:
- Using social media as inspiration, not comparison
- Raising sovereign children
Find Lacey
Instagram: @fireheart_shepherdess
Website: fireheartshepherdess.co
Further Reading:
Radical Homemaker by Shannon Hayes
Resources Mentioned:
Lines written in the days of growing darkness by Mary Oliver
Related Ground Work Episodes:
Current Discounts for GW listeners:
- 15% off Farm True ghee and body care products using code: KATEKAV15
Join the Ground Work Collective:
Instagram: @groundworkcollective
Find a Farm: nearhome.groundworkcollective.com
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Podcast disclaimer can be found by visiting: groundworkcollective.com/disclaimer

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Quantum Interconnections with Carrie Bennett
Mind, Body, and Soil
06/14/22 • 111 min
Carrie Bennett is unveiling the interconnectedness between us and our environment. Exploring health and connection through the lens of quantum biology, Carrie lays the ground work for understanding the electric nature of our bodies and how they interact with our environment to create energy. This podcast explores and uncovers the deep interconnectedness of mind, body, and soil that we’re always exploring and dives even deeper with discussions around exclusion zone water, EMFs, circadian biology, and more. She ties everything back to our connection with nature through light, ground, and water. Not only does Carrie elegantly deliver the foundational knowledge we need to understand these concepts but she provides an abundance of information on resources for quantum healing, many of them free and right outside your door. This is a powerhouse of a podcast that spans both the technical and the actionable in an introduction to quantum biology.
We also talk about:
- The surprising nature of collagen
- Light as a nutrient
- Seasonal living in colder climates
- & so much more!
Resources:
Instagram:@carriebwellness
Website: https://www.carriebwellness.com
Discounts:
15% off Carrie’s ‘Connect to the Light’ Course with code ‘KATE15’
Further Reading:
Books:
- The Fourth Phase of Water: Beyond Solid, Liquid, and Vapor by Gerald Pollack
- Electric Body, Electric Health by Eileen McCusick
Studies:
- Electromagnetic fields act via activation of voltage-gated calcium channels to produce beneficial or adverse effects by Martin Pall
- The effects of grounding (earthing) on inflammation, the immune response, wound healing, and prevention and treatment of chronic inflammatory and autoimmune diseases by James Oschman et al.
Gadgets and Do-Dads:
- Blue Light Blockers (15% off using Carriebwellness)
- Dive into EMF Meters
- Timer for WiFi
Current Discounts for GW listeners:
- 15% off Farm True ghee and body care products using code: KATEKAV15
Join the Ground Work Collective:
Instagram: @groundworkcollective
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Podcast disclaimer can be found by visiting: groundworkcollective.com/disclaimer

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The Strenuous Life with Ed Roberson
Mind, Body, and Soil
03/29/22 • 85 min
Ed Roberson, host of the Mountain and Prairie podcast and Conservation Director at the Palmer Land Conservancy, shares his journey through both his personal and professional life. We weave through Ed’s career in real estate that led him into conservation work in the West and his personal evolution and exploration in everything from ultramarathons to meditation. Ed is as inspiring as he is dynamic, as dedicated a father as he is a storyteller, and as voracious a reader as he is a conservationist.
We Also Talk About
- Meditation, breathwork, running
- Creating a practice around reading
- Rising above distraction
- Teddy Roosevelt
- Water rights in the West
- Conservation work
Resources:
Instagram: @mtnprairie
Podcast/Book Recs/Good News in the West: mountainandprairie.com
Show Links:
Strenuous Life Speech by Theodore Roosevelt
The Nature Fix by Florence Williams
Join the Ground Work Collective:
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Building Strength from the Inside Out with Ashleigh VanHouten
Mind, Body, and Soil
08/02/22 • 71 min
Ashleigh VanHouten is at the center of exploring muscles - both building them in the gym and cooking them in the kitchen. Author of cookbooks Carnivore-ish and It Takes Guts and pioneer of women’s strength training programs her work makes cooking and exercise feel easy and accessible. During this conversation, Ashleigh and Kate explore the world of incorporating organ meats into your diet from a place of no shame - whether you’re highlighting them or hiding them, these nutrient dense superfoods deserve a place on your plate. Ashleigh talks about being a woman in male-dominated industries and how marketing has shaped the way women eat and train over the years, for better and worse. She talks about how we can celebrate the differences in women’s physiological and hormonal outlays to train better, prioritize recovery, and get the protein women need in their diets. In that same vein, Ashleigh discusses her carnivore-ish pregnancy and what it has been like to begin to introduce the next generation to nutrient dense foods like organ meats in her baby’s diet. This conversation is wide-ranging and incredibly empowering.
We also talk about:
- Healthspan and considering muscle mass as we age
- Taking a critical look at our end goals by asking “to what end?”
- Prioritizing feeling good and how the byproduct might be looking good
Find Ashleigh
Instagram: @themusclemaven
Website: ashleighvanhouten.com
Podcast: Muscle Science for Women
Training Programs:
Current Discounts for GW listeners:
- 15% off Farm True ghee and body care products using code: KATEKAV15
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Instagram: @groundworkcollective
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Finding Nourishment in Liver, Ancestral Lifeways, and Goats with Dr. Suuzi Hazen
Mind, Body, and Soil
11/22/22 • 107 min
Dr. Suuzi Hazen is a wife, mother, farmer and healer who raises goats in the rugged fire country of north-eastern California. She is the founder of Mother's Best Liver Pills, the original microbrewery of grass-fed beef liver supplements. Suuzi is a Doctor of Traditional Chinese Medicine and in this episode we dive right into the liver, looking at it not just through the lens of Traditional Chinese Medicine, but through an ancestral and spiritual lens. Suuzi goes on to unpack traditional lifeways and how we can find a connection in our modern world when it comes to child rearing, raising a family, and beyond. As two goat owners only could, we discuss the ways that goats connect us back to a different time. We also dive into marriage and sexuality and unpack the highs and lows of long term partnerships. This is a jam packed episode with an incredible guest.
Note: this episode contains explicit content.
Find Suuzi:
Instagram: @drsuuzihazen
Website: Mother’s Best Liver Pills
Related Ground Work Episodes:
Current Discounts for GW listeners:
- 15% off Farm True ghee and body care products using code: KATEKAV15
- 20% off Home of Wool using code BLACKSHEEP20 (until November 30th) and code KATEKAVANAUGH for 10% off after that.
Join the Ground Work Collective:
Instagram: @groundworkcollective
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Find Kate: @kate_kavanaugh
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How to Find Ecological Literacy in an Age of Disconnection with Bobby Gill
Mind, Body, and Soil
06/21/22 • 164 min
This episode unpacks the relationships between all things, taking a systems view of mind, body, and soil. Bobby Gill is the Director of Development and Communications at the Savory Institute but he is also on a similar quest to uncover the way life is connected on a multitude of different levels. This is a deep dive into ecology, humanity’s relationship with nature over time, and finding ecological literacy in an age of ecological illiteracy. Bobby and Kate unpack the idea of systems thinking through the lens of the textbook ‘Systems View of Life’. Technology, psychedelics, ruminants, nutrient cycling, parenting are all part and parcel of this wide ranging conversation. We also explore the way that meat has been portrayed in media and dive into some of Bobby’s work with the Savory Institute. This is a conversation that is truly not to be missed.
We also talk about:
- Holistic planning
- Ruminants as ecosystem engineers
- Embodying the full expression of life and health
- & so much more!
Resources:
Instagram:@b0bby.gill
Website: Savory Institute
Bobby’s TEDx Talk
Books:
- The Systems View of Life by Fritjof Capra and Pierre Luigi Luisi
- Nourishment by Fred Provenza
- The Secret Drugs of Buddhism by Mike Crowley
- The Fourth Turning by William Strauss and Neil Howe
- How to Change Your Mind by Michael Pollan
- The Awakened Brain by Dr. Lisa Miller
- The Immortality Key by Brian C. Muraresku
Other Mentions:
- Daisyworld Resources: Lovelock and Gaia, Model of Daisyworld
- Water Cycles with Walter Jehne
- All of earth Time as a 24 hour clock
Current Discounts for GW listeners:
- 15% off Farm True ghee and body care products using code: KATEKAV15
- 15% off Carrie’s ‘Connect to the Light’ Course with code ‘KATE15’
Join the Ground Work Collective
Instagram: @groundworkcollective
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Podcast disclaimer can be found by visiting: groundwork collective.com/disclaimer
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Liquid Gold + Living Out Your Dharma with Lynn Goodwin and Kim Welch
Mind, Body, and Soil
04/12/22 • 87 min
Lynn Goodwin and Kim Welch are helping others connect to their health, the land, and their dharma - and they started with ghee. Farmtrue founders Lynn and Kim wanted to share the Ayurvedic principles that had changed their lives and knew that ghee was the perfect gateway - but their business stretches far beyond their 100% grass-fed and grass-finished ghee. In this episode, we let a lot of truths bubble up to the surface. We talk about living in connection with the seasons and nature and the basics of Ayurveda. We have a very open conversation about what it means to really source from local farmers and to be true to your mission as a business. We get vulnerable about the triumphs, hardships, and evolution of small business ownership. Not to mention - a deep dive into fat and ghee.
We Also Talk About:
- Finding spirituality and connection in nature
- Separating your value from your business
- Living out your dharma
- Seeking balance and harmony in mind, body, and soil.
Resources:
Instagram: @farmtrue
15% discount on all Farmtrue products with code ‘KATEKAV15’
Join the Ground Work Collective:
Instagram: @groundworkcollective
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Podcast disclaimer can be found by visiting: groundworkcollective.com/disclaimer

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Exploring the Nature of Paradox with Brandi Stanley
Mind, Body, and Soil
09/27/22 • 173 min
Brandi Stanley is a walking and talking paradox and you are, too. This episode is a long-form podcast between two people that don’t know how to be bite-sized. Often discussed through the lens of paradox where paradox is the answer and not the problem, and pleasure is found in the pursuit of all the questions. In it, Brandi discusses finding purpose in her life as a generalist for whom curiosity is always burning. We talk about aliveness as a North Star for purpose in that, according to Brandi, “whatever wakes up aliveness is your purpose.” We talk about connection - both connecting disparate ideas and also what happens when we become disconnected and it manifests as illness in our bodies, divisiveness in our culture, and breakdowns in our ecology. Brandi shares about the role of religion in her life and her exploration of the intentional split between matter and the sacred, and how she is reintegrating them in her life. We explore the idea of ‘living in the gift’ and how we can share our gifts with the world and how we can receive the gifts of others.
We also talk about:
- The intersection of eroticism + aliveness
- Learning to stop cutting off pieces of yourself to belong
- Holding complexity
- Finding purpose in illness
Find Brandi
Instagram: @thisplusthatpod
Website: thisplusthat.com
For a full list of books, essays, and other resources mentioned please see Episode Website
Current Discounts for GW listeners:
- 15% off Farm True ghee and body care products using code: KATEKAV15
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How many episodes does Mind, Body, and Soil have?
Mind, Body, and Soil currently has 112 episodes available.
What topics does Mind, Body, and Soil cover?
The podcast is about Society & Culture, Podcasts and Education.
What is the most popular episode on Mind, Body, and Soil?
The episode title 'How to Find Ecological Literacy in an Age of Disconnection with Bobby Gill' is the most popular.
What is the average episode length on Mind, Body, and Soil?
The average episode length on Mind, Body, and Soil is 105 minutes.
How often are episodes of Mind, Body, and Soil released?
Episodes of Mind, Body, and Soil are typically released every 7 days.
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The first episode of Mind, Body, and Soil was released on Mar 19, 2022.
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