
Fabienne Cotte: Managing Clinical Trials While Surfing in Asia
05/26/23 • 62 min
Things we talked about
- How she got her first job in digital health already during her studies
- Why she decided to continue working in digital health upon graduating versus working in a hospital
- How it’s like to work from Bali: Surfing, productivity, time zone differences, coworking spaces
- Why working in a different time zone makes her more productive
- An example of a study they did in Tanzania which compared mid-level healthcare professionals using software versus physicians without software (with very interesting results)
- How a typical work day looks like for her
- How she had to start managing people a few months in to her job
- Why she’s considering going back to work in the hospital to work as a physician in Dermatology some time in the future
Links As Mentioned In The Podcast
- Fabienne on LinkedIn.
- Ada Health: Where Fabienne currently works. A healthcare company in Berlin developing a symptom checker. Note that Matthew Fenech, a prior guest on this podcast, also worked at Ada Health, and I also worked there as Ada was my first consulting customer back in 2020.
Things we talked about
- How she got her first job in digital health already during her studies
- Why she decided to continue working in digital health upon graduating versus working in a hospital
- How it’s like to work from Bali: Surfing, productivity, time zone differences, coworking spaces
- Why working in a different time zone makes her more productive
- An example of a study they did in Tanzania which compared mid-level healthcare professionals using software versus physicians without software (with very interesting results)
- How a typical work day looks like for her
- How she had to start managing people a few months in to her job
- Why she’s considering going back to work in the hospital to work as a physician in Dermatology some time in the future
Links As Mentioned In The Podcast
- Fabienne on LinkedIn.
- Ada Health: Where Fabienne currently works. A healthcare company in Berlin developing a symptom checker. Note that Matthew Fenech, a prior guest on this podcast, also worked at Ada Health, and I also worked there as Ada was my first consulting customer back in 2020.
Previous Episode

Luka Opasic: Evolutionary Biology and Detecting Diseases Through Eye Movements
Things we talked about
- How he got into evoluationary biology
- How become the first doctor to join the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Biology as a researcher
- His research on modelling cancer in software
- Why he moved back from the US (doing research at the Cleveland Clinic) to Germany
- How he managed to leave research to join the startup industry, getting his job at Bulbitech
- What he did at Bulbitech: Detecting diseases through eye movements
- Why writing skills are so important
Links As Mentioned In The Podcast
- Luka on LinkedIn
- CancerSim: The software (python package) which Luka co-developed for the simulation of cancer.
- Bulbitech: The startup Luka worked at, building software for detecting diseases through eye movements.
Next Episode

Johan Hedevåg: Ex-Director of Product at Kry, Founding Partner at 4scale Ventures, Professional Poker Player
Things we talked about
- Why Johan first worked as a doctor but then left the hospital because working as a doctor doesn’t scale and it’s hard to have a larger impact
- Why it’s hard to change a hospital from inside
- His first job (scholarship) after leaving the hospital which was about identifying problems in hospitals and how to solve them
- Building his first own Healthtech company producting wearable sensors for patients in hospitals
- Being a professional poker player, doing that during medical school, and what made him stop
- How the knowledge of poker is useful in other aspects of life
- Why he didn’t aim for good “grades” in exams
- What a product manager actually does and how to learn it
- Why many doctors underestimate their usefulness
- “The rise and fall of Europe’s largest telemedicine provider”
- Working at Kry while it grew from 60 to 1.200 people
- In which areas you could build successful Healthcare companies now
- What he’s doing at his own company, 4scale, now
- The pros and cons of venture capital (VC) funding for startups
Links As Mentioned In The Podcast
- Johan on LinkedIn.
- Johan on Substack where he publishes his writing: Big world - Small world and Mini mental models.
- 4scale Ventures: Johan’s company which he co-founded. They support companies to reach their ambitions on growth efficiency and leadership. They also invest in companies and offer consulting and coaching.
- womanly: The female health ecommerce startup which Johan is currently building.
- Kry: Telemedicine company where Johan was the director of product. Kry is available in Sweden, Germany, Norway, France and the UK (slight correction here as I didn’t mention the UK in the podcast).
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