Massage Science (Formerly Purves Versus)

This is another episode on the new RMT experience with a deeper dive into healthcare entrepreneurship. I have a really interesting and enlightening chat with Carlos Grouchy, a Registered Massage Therapist who's working hard to make change in the wellness industry. Carlos has a unique, fun and evidence-based approach to massage therapy and wellness and he isn't afraid to question the status quo.
In our discussion, we address some of the unhelpful topics in the massage therapy field, as well as the challenges Carlos faced when thinking about opening his own clinic. Carlos shares his journey, his initial struggle with a lack of business knowledge, and the obstacles of building a brand in the healthcare space. He also illuminates how he's using social media to engage and educate the public about pain science and evidence based content.
We wrap up by looking at the trend of entrepreneurs transitioning their personal brands into brand empires and what that means for the healthcare industry. Carlos gives his take on how healthcare professionals can be educated on a comprehensive approach to wellness. From understanding their own physical capabilities, simplifying orthopaedic testing, to incorporating mental health education into massage therapy school.

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Engaging in Cultural Safety, Reconciliation, and Indigenous Identity with Susan Dupuis RMT

Massage Science (Formerly Purves Versus)

10/05/23 • 71 min

Today, we're thrilled to introduce you to Susan Dupuis, an RMT and educator from Manitoba. She's here to engage us in a poignant dialogue about cultural safety and reconciliation. Our conversation kicks off with a symbolic offering of tobacco, setting the stage for a respectful and open discussion. Get an insight into Susan's captivating presentation titled, "10 Things for RMTs to Learn about Reconciliation" and explore her background, and her educational journey.
Listen closely as Susan reveals what inspired her to enter the realm of education and her thoughts on cultivating therapists. We then shift our lens to the profound issue of intergenerational trauma and the power of touch, linking it to our nervous system and our inherent need for emotional bonding.
Our conversation takes a heartfelt turn as Susan recounts her personal quest of reconnecting with her Anishinaabe identity. Learn how this newfound understanding led her to question the potential impact of therapist age on the profession and the concept of Indigenous massage therapy. As we wrap up, reflect with us on the criticality of addressing intergenerational trauma and the importance of reclaiming an Indigenous identity for RMTs and their clients.
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Touch, Techniques, and the Therapeutic Journey with Monica and Forrest

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05/09/24 • 51 min

Forrest and Monica, two therapists from the town of Nelson, BC, join me to discuss the manual therapies like osteopathy, massage, and acupuncture. They share their journey from education to practice. With their stories, we have a look into the art of listening and communicating, and how these skills contribute to effective patient care.
Our discussion explores the evidence and anecdotes behind manual therapies, as we consider the challenges of marrying traditional techniques with modern evidence-based practice. With Forrest and Monica's experiences, we illuminate the significant role of human touch in evoking therapeutic responses, and how it serves as a common thread across different therapeutic disciplines. Additionally, we'll navigate the intricacies of creating a calming clinic atmosphere that promotes wellness and the importance of your approach in eliciting a desired response in patients.
Lastly, we debate the delicate balance between ethics and compassion, sharing personal stories that highlight the power of personalized treatment. Monica introduces us to the "three legs of a stool" concept in patient communication, vital for ensuring a comprehensive approach to patient care. We also touch on the emotional aspect of physical illnesses and the necessity for a safe space where clients can express and process their emotions. This episode promises not just to enlighten but also to inspire both practitioners and patients in the continuous journey of healing and self-discovery.
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Being a Massage Therapist in Professional Sports with Richard Hawes

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06/06/24 • 87 min

Join us as we sit down with Richard Hawes, a Registered Massage Therapist who has had over 30 years of experience as an RMT and now works with the Vancouver Whitecaps. Richard's path is anything but ordinary—starting off as an aspiring soccer player, pivoting to a police officer in Hong Kong, and ultimately finding his passion in massage therapy in Vancouver.
Richard opens up about his personal battle with cancer and how this life-altering experience reignited his passion for massage therapy. From owning a clinic to treating top athletes, Richard's story is a powerful reminder of the importance of following your professional dreams and not settling into a routine job. Listen as he shares invaluable insights on the challenges and rewards of working with high-performing athletes and the significance of maintaining passion in one's career. His narrative underscores the vital role of listening in clinical practice and the profound impact of therapeutic relationships with athletes.
Get an insider's perspective on what it's like to be a sports massage therapist integrated within a professional team. We explore everything from the demanding pre-season schedules and game day preparations to the collaborative efforts of medical professionals ensuring optimal player care. Richard offers a detailed look at the daily routines, the complexities of travel, and the importance of a therapeutic alliance between therapist and athlete. Whether you're an aspiring therapist, a sports enthusiast, or simply someone interested in compelling life stories, this conversation with Richard Hawes is sure to enlighten and inspire.

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Higher Education, Evidence-Based Practice and the Future of Massage Therapy

Massage Science (Formerly Purves Versus)

01/17/24 • 53 min

In this episode we welcome Nadine Hawryluk to discuss her academic and professional journey while exploring what the CMTBCs new standard of practice for evidence-based massage therapy could mean for the future of our profession, both in schools as well as in practice. As a recent master's graduate and an RMT from Courtenay, BC, Nadine brings a wealth of knowledge and experience to the discussion.
Nadine details her journey from body worker to registered massage therapist, unveiling the pivotal role that advanced education plays in bridging the gap between theory and practice.
We highlight the skill sets required for excellence in the realm of massage and manual therapy education and practice. We delve into the importance of a solid grasp of physiology and the art of patient communication, emphasizing that therapy extends beyond mere technique to encompass compassionate, holistic care. My own narrative of educational transformation serves as a testament to the power of knowledge, illustrating how it has reshaped my professional identity and enhanced my patient interactions.
Navigating the changing tides of healthcare regulation in British Columbia, we explore the anticipated shifts within professions such as massage therapy, chiropractic, and acupuncture, envisioning a future where evidence-based practice is the cornerstone of our professions. We confront the challenges of integrating into the broader healthcare system, emphasizing the necessity for continued professional development grounded in scientific rigor. By adhering to such stringent standards, we advocate for the elevation of manual therapies and the creation of a more credible and respected community of health practitioners.
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The Student RMT Experience with Courtney Olmstead

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09/11/23 • 76 min

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This is the second episode in my series on new RMTs. Today we have Courtney, who is an RMT in Halifax, Nova Scotia. We had a great conversation about the need to adapt RMT entry to practice curriculum to make it consistent with current evidence and how the industry and more importantly the public would benefit from a shift in thinking from fixing people to providing more meaningful support and management.

At the time of this recording she was just finishing her studies in RMT school. Courtney started to develop a sense of skepticism during her entry to practice education so she started to search for information outside of her school environment. This led her in a search for updated knowledge which was challenging everything she was learning in school. When presenting this new information to her instructors she was frustrated because she was encouraged to not ask questions and to simply accept the knowledge that she was being presented with.

Courtney’s experience is not unique as it demonstrates some of the common problems our profession has with its entry to practice curriculum. We share a few suggestions of a better way forward which we hope the stakeholders will adopt.

Some wise words to take away from this episode, the more I learn the more I realize I need to know

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Finding Balance as a Clinician and Continuing Education Instructor with Walt Fritz

Massage Science (Formerly Purves Versus)

06/30/23 • 70 min

In this episode Walt tells us about his clinical and educational experiences and how he made the transition from being heavily invested as an MFR focused therapist into being an evidence-based clinician.
We discuss the importance of finding an acceptable balance in our understanding, our communication and how we teach continuing education. Our treatment interventions aren’t always just about one tissue or a special technique, they are more complex than that and the outcomes people experience are more strongly related to the strength of the therapeutic relationship.
The willingness to embrace shared decision making is the core premise of what he wants learners to take away from his courses.
Research articles:
(Geri, 2019) Manual Therapy: Exploiting the Role of Human Touch
(Bialosky, 2017). Unravelling the Mechanisms of Manual Therapy: Modelling an Approach
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Modality Empires and Continuing Education with Michelle Smith

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06/06/23 • 72 min

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In this episode I welcome Michelle Smith RMT from Saskatoon, Saskatchewan. Michelle has a wealth of education and clinical experience which she uses to help the profession of massage therapy become more evidence-based.

We have a positive and constructive conversation on modality empires, critical thinking, the fundamentals of evidence-based practice and the state of continuing education for RMTs across Canada.
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Mythbusting, Clinic Ownership and Teaching Continuing Education with Jessica Villeneuve

Massage Science (Formerly Purves Versus)

05/09/23 • 84 min

Jessica Villeneuve is an RMT in Calgary Alberta. She is the owner of Samestarswellness and also teaches continuing education courses on migraines. In this episode we discuss the challenges of owning a clinic and marketing it to the public in Alberta. Reframing the clinical interview into an exploratory conversation with clients. The negative impacts and risk of harm with misinformation that is perpetuated by RMTs and the stakeholders.

We also had a great conversation about the pros and cons of being a CE instructor.

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Professional Development and Evidence-Based Practice

Massage Science (Formerly Purves Versus)

11/13/24 • 37 min

Can the flexibility of a new professional development model for massage therapists change the status quo? Discover how British Columbia’s innovative approach is setting the stage for a shift in how therapists across Canada approach continuing education. We delve into the challenges and triumphs of this flexible professional development model, weighing the benefits of personalized learning against the risks of diminished oversight. Hear firsthand about our experiences and the fervent support we’ve encountered, as well as the critical role that evidence-based practices must play in shaping the future of massage therapy education.
This episode takes us to the American Massage Therapy Association's annual conference in Tampa, Florida, where we shared insights on managing fibromyalgia. This international perspective highlights the gaps and opportunities in Canadian massage therapy professional associations. We reflect on the current climate for Registered Massage Therapists, emphasizing the need for critical thinking and a shift away from outdated traditions to evidence-backed knowledge.
Our conversation culminates in a call to action for therapists to challenge the status quo and embrace a more inclusive approach to learning. By focusing on the integration of manual skills within an evidence-based framework, we champion the need to reduce pseudoscience and foster critical thinking throughout the profession. Listen in to gain a deeper understanding of how massage therapists can redefine their practice to truly benefit their clients, keeping pace with the latest scientific standards and innovations in the field.

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