
S4 E2: Loud Murmurs X The Weirdo Podcast: What Female Characters Do We Want More Of On Screen (part 1)
03/06/21 • 54 min
This is our Part One of our two-part International Women’s Day Special Programming, in collaboration with our friends over at The Weirdo Podcast.
In February, we teamed up with our friends at the Weirdo Podcast and hosted a discussion on Clubhouse, inviting our listeners to share what their ideal female character on screen would be like. The two-hour long initial conversation ballooned into over three hours, with 50+ listeners from across the world sharing their thoughts. We jotted them all down and categorized it loosely into six broad categories. Think of it as “suggestions” to the entertainment industry or all the players who are involved in making TV shows and movies, here’s the female character(s) that the audience REALLY wants to see on screen! We’re answering the million-dollar question here.
Our two-part special centers around the six categories of female characters that we’d like to see on screen. We combed through our Clubhouse discussion notes, our own experiences as pop culture consumers, and compiled this “wishlist” from the viewpoint of an average audience (rather than that of a TV/film industry insider). Some wishes are already being fulfilled while others seem farfetched. But we hope that we can see our collective wishlist being realized: whether on the small screen or big screen, in fanfics or novel. We are manifesting this into the world, now world, let’s make it happen.
- 2:35 Introductions and the “why” behind our two-part special
- 7:43 We want to see more female characters from all age groups
- 12:09 The movie Eighth Grade did a good job of portraying the struggles of that specific age groups; Chinese-language films/shows such as《少年的你》(Better Days),《过春天》(The Crossing) 以及《隐秘的角落》(Bad Kids) also do a good job of showing the challenges and traumas of youth
- 24:37 We want to see real female characters across age groups for two reasons: one is what they REALLY look like (physicality) and the REAL challenges they are facing
- 30:34 We want to see more female friendship on screen
- 38:26 We want to see female characters with real bodies
Please give it a listen, share your thoughts with us on Twitter (and all other platforms), and stay tuned for Part Two!
Special thanks to The Weirdo Podcast’s editor:
【Editor】方改则 Gaize Fang
【Music】Intro: Drop Point - Bryan Teo; Outro:Hold on a Sec - Bryan Teoh
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- Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/s?fid=544416&refid=stpr
- Pocket Cast: http://pca.st/nLid
- Overcast: https://bit.ly/2SL7MNJ
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Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs)This is our Part One of our two-part International Women’s Day Special Programming, in collaboration with our friends over at The Weirdo Podcast.
In February, we teamed up with our friends at the Weirdo Podcast and hosted a discussion on Clubhouse, inviting our listeners to share what their ideal female character on screen would be like. The two-hour long initial conversation ballooned into over three hours, with 50+ listeners from across the world sharing their thoughts. We jotted them all down and categorized it loosely into six broad categories. Think of it as “suggestions” to the entertainment industry or all the players who are involved in making TV shows and movies, here’s the female character(s) that the audience REALLY wants to see on screen! We’re answering the million-dollar question here.
Our two-part special centers around the six categories of female characters that we’d like to see on screen. We combed through our Clubhouse discussion notes, our own experiences as pop culture consumers, and compiled this “wishlist” from the viewpoint of an average audience (rather than that of a TV/film industry insider). Some wishes are already being fulfilled while others seem farfetched. But we hope that we can see our collective wishlist being realized: whether on the small screen or big screen, in fanfics or novel. We are manifesting this into the world, now world, let’s make it happen.
- 2:35 Introductions and the “why” behind our two-part special
- 7:43 We want to see more female characters from all age groups
- 12:09 The movie Eighth Grade did a good job of portraying the struggles of that specific age groups; Chinese-language films/shows such as《少年的你》(Better Days),《过春天》(The Crossing) 以及《隐秘的角落》(Bad Kids) also do a good job of showing the challenges and traumas of youth
- 24:37 We want to see real female characters across age groups for two reasons: one is what they REALLY look like (physicality) and the REAL challenges they are facing
- 30:34 We want to see more female friendship on screen
- 38:26 We want to see female characters with real bodies
Please give it a listen, share your thoughts with us on Twitter (and all other platforms), and stay tuned for Part Two!
Special thanks to The Weirdo Podcast’s editor:
【Editor】方改则 Gaize Fang
【Music】Intro: Drop Point - Bryan Teo; Outro:Hold on a Sec - Bryan Teoh
Find Loud Murmurs in the iTunes podcast store, Google Play, Spotify, and wherever you listen to podcasts (e.g. Pocket Casts, Overcast)! Please subscribe, enjoy, and feel free to drop us a note and leave us a review.
- RSS feed: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/258327.rss
- Itunes: https://apple.co/2VAVf0Z
- Google play: goo.gl/KjRYPN
- Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2IWNuRB
- Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/s?fid=544416&refid=stpr
- Pocket Cast: http://pca.st/nLid
- Overcast: https://bit.ly/2SL7MNJ
Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs.
Please reach out to us at [email protected] for any business inquiries.
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[REVISIT] S3 E21: "Nomadland" and Laborers on the Open Road
In celebration of Chole Zhao becoming the first Asian woman to win a Golden Globe for Best Director, we are revisiting this episode we recorded last year.
Our three hosts Juan, Diaodiao and Ina discuss ‘Nomadland,’ a recent favorite of ours and of the film festival award circuit (winner of the top prize at the Venice Film Festival).
We try to put into words the ennui and other hard-to-grasp feelings the film evokes. We examine our own relationships with nature and the land on which we live, and we dive into the thorny social issue of caring for elderly laborers in both the U.S. and China.
In this episode, you’ll hear:
- 00:00-07:30 First impressions of “Nomadland”
- 07:30 - Frances McDormand’s sublime performance and how the movie can’t be contained by one genre
- 08:20 - How the film portrays space through storytelling and cinematography, the juxtaposition of the endless road and the cramped van
- 11:37 - The relationship between human and nature and land in the modern society
- 14:47 - The real social issues behind this poetic film
- 19:06 - How China and and the U.S. face similar yet different social issues with aging workers
- 23:32 - The decline of the welfare capitalism
- 31:07 - The nomadic lifestyle of those who turned away from the city life and the realities of being on the road
- 37:06 - How the movie manages a social critique without undermining individuals’ dignity, resourcefulness and resilience
Links:
- Millions of elderly laborers, who’s in charge of their retirement? https://www.thepaper.cn/newsDetail_forward_1337242
- ”Bitter Flowers” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z788IgjZDaY
- “Policing the open road” https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/policing-the-open-road/
Find Loud Murmurs in the iTunes podcast store, Google Play, Spotify, and wherever you listen to podcasts (e.g. Pocket Casts, Overcast)! Please subscribe, enjoy, and feel free to drop us a note and leave us a review.
- RSS feed: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/258327.rss
- Itunes: https://apple.co/2VAVf0Z
- Google play: goo.gl/KjRYPN
- Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2IWNuRB
- Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/s?fid=544416&refid=stpr
- Pocket Cast: http://pca.st/nLid
- Overcast: https://bit.ly/2SL7MNJ
Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs.
Please reach out to us at [email protected] for any business inquiries.
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S4 E3: Loud Murmurs X The Weirdo Podcast: What Female Characters Do We Want More Of On Screen (Part 2)
This is our Part Two of our two-part International Women’s Day Special Programming, in collaboration with our friends over at The Weirdo Podcast. Listen to Part One here.
Our two-part special centers around the six categories of female characters that we’d like to see on screen. We combed through our Clubhouse discussion notes, our own experiences as pop culture consumers, and compiled this “wishlist” from the viewpoint of an average audience (rather than that of a TV/film industry insider). Some wishes are already being fulfilled while others seem farfetched. But we hope that we can see our collective wishlist being realized: whether on the small screen or big screen, in fanfics or novel. We are manifesting this into the world, now world, let’s make it happen.
【Hosts】
Juan
Afra (@afrazhaowang)
Ina (@capfainina0328)
Diaodiao
若含(@echoruohan)
王磬(@qingww)
【Highlights】
- 2:45 We want to see representation from Chinese Minority Races without their characters being exoticized
- 7:40 Women of Minority Races in China should not be reduced to caricatures of sexual resources from exotic regions
- 10:36 We want to see more Minority Race characters in modern TV shows, rather than “props” in period dramas
- 11:20 It’s only fair (and rational) that Minority Races get equal representation in TV and films -- these folks want to be seen as well
- 15:30 We want to see more TV/film creations from a women’s point of view: female directors, cinematographers, etc. What does the “female gaze” look like?
- 20:54 We want to see authentic female characters, they can be successful and independent, breaking the glass ceiling, as well as sink to the depth of the gutters as a villain
- 22:03 Breaking the ceiling: how do female characters explore their own lives and self actualize?
- 29:28 Sinking to the gutters: We want to see pure villains whose motivation hopefully has nothing to do with her partner/kid/family but herself and her yearning for power
Find Loud Murmurs in the iTunes podcast store, Google Play, Spotify, and wherever you listen to podcasts (e.g. Pocket Casts, Overcast)! Please subscribe, enjoy, and feel free to drop us a note and leave us a review.
- RSS feed: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/258327.rss
- Itunes: https://apple.co/2VAVf0Z
- Google play: goo.gl/KjRYPN
- Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2IWNuRB
- Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/s?fid=544416&refid=stpr
- Pocket Cast: http://pca.st/nLid
- Overcast: https://bit.ly/2SL7MNJ
Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs.
Please reach out to us at [email protected] for any business inquiries.
Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs)
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