Episode 475: Brian Reed and Hamza Syed

02/09/22 • 80 min

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Brian Reed and Hamza Syed are co-hosts of the new podcast The Trojan Horse Affair.

“I had lost all faith in the reporting that already happened on the subject matter. And that was my mentality with each source and each interviewer. I wanted the debate ended in the room because I didn't want commentary beyond it. I didn't want any kind of interpretation beyond it. I wanted the situation to be resolved there and then.... And without certain answers, I thought we weren't going to be able to speak about this matter in the way that I wanted to speak about it.” —Syed

“I both desperately wanted to know the answer of who wrote the letter, but kind of understood that we probably weren't going to get it beyond a shadow of a doubt. And I thought that I had transmitted that to Hamza and that he understood that. But as time went on, I realized that he had not accepted that as the likely outcome. And this is what was actually so energizing to work with you, Hamza. You never let your hope and desire and hunger to get that answer ever get dimmed. Like, ever.” —Reed

Show notes:

@BriHReed
@HamzaMSyed
Reed on Longform Podcast
00:00 S-Town (Serial Productions • 2017)
01:00 The Trojan Horse Affair (Serial Productions • 2022)
21:56 "Trojan Horse Primary Barred Muslims from Easter Classes, Tribunal Hears" (Richard Adams • The Guardian • Dec 2015)
49:00 Serial: Season Three (Serial Productions • 2018)

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Brian Reed and Hamza Syed are co-hosts of the new podcast The Trojan Horse Affair.

Show notes:

@BriHReed
@HamzaMSyed
Reed on Longform Podcast
00:00 S-Town (Serial Productions • 2017)
01:00 The Trojan Horse Affair (Serial Productions • 2022)
21:56 "Trojan Horse Primary Barred Muslims from Easter Classes, Tribunal Hears" (Richard Adams • The Guardian • Dec 2015)
49:00 Serial: Season Three (Serial Productions • 2018)

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Episode 474: Chuck Klosterman

Chuck Klosterman is a journalist and the author of eleven books, including his latest, The Nineties.

”Selling out... was very much injected into the way I understood the world.... And I am now supposed to do all of these interviews and all of these podcasts promoting this book. And because it's a book about the nineties... it feels incredibly uncomfortable to me.... I think young people assume that selling out is only about money: that if you try to do something to make money, that means you're selling out, because the word ‘sell’ is in there. But that's not really how it was. I mean, what you were selling out was this idea of your integrity. And what your integrity was, was somehow not doing anything to make other people like you.”

Show notes:

@CKlosterman
chuckklostermanauthor.com
Klosterman on Longform
00:00 The Nineties (Penguin Press • 2022)
10:00 Capitalist Realism (Mark Fisher • Zer0 Books • 2009)
15:00 Klosterman's SPIN archive
29:00 Fargo Rock City (Scribner • 2001)
30:00 Sex, Drugs and Cocoa Puffs (Scribner • 2003)
31:00 Killing Yourself to Live (Scribner • 2005)
57:00 "A 12th L.A. Lakers Title and Remembering Eddie Van Halen with Ryen Russillo and Chuck Klosterman" (The Bill Simmons Podcast • 2020)

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Episode 476: Matthieu Aikins

Matthieu Aikins is a contributing writer at The New York Times Magazine who has reported on Afghanistan since 2008. His new book is The Naked Don’t Fear the Water: An Underground Journey with Afghan Refugees.

“I think at some point you just say, screw it. I'm gonna act like a human being and help my friend. That's the most important thing. You actually realize, yeah, now that we're in it together, the only thing that matters is both of us staying alive and staying safe and getting where we need to go. And whatever I have to do to do that, I'm going to do.”

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