
Episode 472: Michael Schulman
01/19/22 • 60 min
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Michael Schulman is a staff writer for The New Yorker. He recently profiled Jeremy Strong of Succession.
”There's an interesting moment that's part of this job where you’ve spent a lot of time with someone and it often feels very personal and very intimate. And then when you go to write the piece, you have to sort of take a breath and say to yourself, Okay, I'm not writing this for this person. I'm writing this for the reader.”
Show notes:
- @MJSchulman
- michael-schulman.com
- Schulman on Longform
- Schulman's New Yorker archive
- 01:00 "On ‘Succession,’ Jeremy Strong Doesn’t Get the Joke" (New Yorker • Dec 2021)
- 03:00 Her Again: Becoming Meryl Streep (Harper • 2016)
- 09:00 "Wendy Williams Dishes the Dirt" (New Yorker • May 2021)
- 35:00 "Adam Driver, the Original Man" (New Yorker • Oct 2019)
- 37:00 "A Defense of Jeremy Strong (and All the Strivers With No Chill)" (Elizabeth Spiers • New York Times • Jan 2022)
- 44:00 "Bridget Everett is Larger than Life" (New Yorker • Jan 2022)
- 45:00 "The Otherworldly Comedy of Julio Torres" (New Yorker • Dec 2020)
- 47:00 "Bo Burnham’s Age of Anxiety" (New Yorker • Jun 2018)
- 47:00 "Troye Sivan’s Coming of Age" (New Yorker • Jun 2019)
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Michael Schulman is a staff writer for The New Yorker. He recently profiled Jeremy Strong of Succession.
”There's an interesting moment that's part of this job where you’ve spent a lot of time with someone and it often feels very personal and very intimate. And then when you go to write the piece, you have to sort of take a breath and say to yourself, Okay, I'm not writing this for this person. I'm writing this for the reader.”
Show notes:
- @MJSchulman
- michael-schulman.com
- Schulman on Longform
- Schulman's New Yorker archive
- 01:00 "On ‘Succession,’ Jeremy Strong Doesn’t Get the Joke" (New Yorker • Dec 2021)
- 03:00 Her Again: Becoming Meryl Streep (Harper • 2016)
- 09:00 "Wendy Williams Dishes the Dirt" (New Yorker • May 2021)
- 35:00 "Adam Driver, the Original Man" (New Yorker • Oct 2019)
- 37:00 "A Defense of Jeremy Strong (and All the Strivers With No Chill)" (Elizabeth Spiers • New York Times • Jan 2022)
- 44:00 "Bridget Everett is Larger than Life" (New Yorker • Jan 2022)
- 45:00 "The Otherworldly Comedy of Julio Torres" (New Yorker • Dec 2020)
- 47:00 "Bo Burnham’s Age of Anxiety" (New Yorker • Jun 2018)
- 47:00 "Troye Sivan’s Coming of Age" (New Yorker • Jun 2019)
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Episode 471: Sarah Marshall
Sarah Marshall is a writer and hosts the podcast You're Wrong About.
”I love it when people tell me that listening to the way I talk about these people in the stories that we tell, and just about the world generally, has made them practice empathy more. I almost feel like I have preserved this a-little-bit-past version of myself, because I've been on this journey throughout the pandemic of becoming pretty cynical, and then deciding cynicism is a luxury and that it feels better, ultimately, to try to believe in people.”
Show notes:
- remembersarahmarshall.com
- Marshall on Longform
- You're Wrong About
- 05:00 "Your 2012 Baby Name Guide: Puritan Edition" (The Hairpin • Jan 2012)
- 08:00 "Remote Control" (The Believer • Jan 2014)
- 12:00 "The End of Evil" (The Believer • Feb 2018)
- 17:00 "Talking Tammy Faye Bakker w. Jessica Chastain" (You're Wrong About • Jan 2022)
- 46:00 "The O.J. Simpson Trial: The DeLorean Detour" (You're Wrong About • Feb 2021)
- 47:00 "The O.J. Simpson Trial: Kato Kaelin Part 1" (You're Wrong About • Dec 2019)
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Episode 473: Khabat Abbas
Khabat Abbas is an independent journalist and video producer from northeastern Syria, and the winner of the 2021 Kurt Schork News Fixer Award.
”I can see from my experience that there is a gap between the editors, who are kind of elites in their luxury offices, and the amazing journalists who are in the field, who all sympathize with what they are seeing on the ground and want to cover [it], but they have to satisfy the editors. And this is how we end up having little gaps in the ways of covering in general. It's not a matter of like, they shaped it in this way. The problem, I think, it’s bigger. How this industry is working, how this industry is deciding what they should cover.”
Show notes:
- @khabat_abas
- Kurt Schork Awards in International Journalism
- 34:00 "'Belief Allows Us to Move Forward,' Said One Female Soldier in Battle Against ISIS" (ABC News • July 2017)
- 40:00 "The Former 'Caliphate Capital' Is Haunted by Fears of an ISIS Comeback" (Washington Post • May 2020)
- 43:00 "How ISIS Women and Their Children Are Being Left Stranded in the Desert" (Washington Post • Dec 2019)
- 43:00 "ISIS at a Crossroads" (Washington Post • Dec 2019)
- 43:00 "After the ISIS Caliphate: Thousands of Islamic State Fighters Captured in Syria Face Uncertain Fate" (Washington Post • Dec 2019)
- 51:00 "'This Is Ethnic Cleansing': A Dispatch from Kurdish Syria" (New York Review of Books • Oct 2019)
- 51:00 "For Kurds on the Syrian Front Line There’s No Ceasefire" (The Daily Beast • Nov 2019)
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