Linux For The Rest Of Us #237 – Emails, ZFS Feedback (thank you Brad) and Open Source isn’t the End All

01/26/20 • -1 min

237 – Linux For The Rest Of Us
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From: Brad

Subject: OpenZFS, oracle zfs, and Linus

Hey Door and Bruce,

We got asked a couple of us who use ZFS our opinions on the article about Linus saying “don’t use ZFS.” So I thought I would also share my comments with you guys.

First of all, ZoL and ZoF and all of the other ZFS’ (MS is coming out with a port, and OSX has one, I believe) are using OpenZFS, which is not the same as Oracle ZFS. They took the last open source Sun version of ZFS and forked that. Oracle has since closed their ZFS implementation, so the code in oracle zfs has diverged from the code of OpenZFS. And what’s more, OpenZFS has many of the original Sun developers who invented ZFS for Sun, such as Matt Ahrens, working on the project.

Second, OpenZFS is under the Sun CDDL license, which is an opensource license. The GPL doesn’t play nicely with it, in the same manner as they don’t play nicely with the BSD or MIT or Apache licenses. Because the GPL (especially v3) is as vendor-lock-in-y as the best ms or apl licenses (or oracle, for that matter). So, not being a lawyer, I have to ask if litigous larry can sue a project like linux or freebsd for using an open source project, which openZFS is?

What I would ideally like to see is for someone to put together an OpenZFS foundation. That should be an umbrella organization that could protect anyone from lawsuits. (again, I am not a lawyer).

Also, regarding shared resource clustering, that concept has been around since the late 90s. I remember in 1998 or 1999, Mosix clusters were available. Basically, you had a kernel module that would run on all of your local machines, and donate their spare cycles to anyone with extra load needing more compute power. seti@home or folding@home have also been around for that length of time as well...

–b
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From: Mark
Subject: Just one Windows program keeping me from totally moving..

Message Body:
I have a Windows 7 machine and would love to totally switch to Mint (until I learn more) all the way. But I have one Windows program that I work in every day that doesn’t want to convert through Wine. It seems to hang on the dot net install. The program (OliveTree Bible) has an old version (.exe) that I have and a current version that is in the Windows Store. Of course they have made many improvements to the current version but I’m using the older version on the Win 7 machine and that’s fine with me. I’m new to Linux and am wondering if you think there is any hope in getting that over from the dark side? I have reached out to OliveTree but they just come back with the ole we only support Windows and Mac’s verbiage. Can you make any suggestions or point me in the right direction? I don’t want to give up on this.

Thanks,

Mark
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From: Brian
Subject: Saying Hello

Hi guys,
I’m sending this simply to let you know that I listen regularly to your podcast and fully appreciate the time...

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From: Brad

Subject: OpenZFS, oracle zfs, and Linus

Hey Door and Bruce,

We got asked a couple of us who use ZFS our opinions on the article about Linus saying “don’t use ZFS.” So I thought I would also share my comments with you guys.

What I would ideally like to see is for someone to put together an OpenZFS foundation. That should be an umbrella organization that could protect anyone from lawsuits. (again, I am not a lawyer).

–b
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From: Mark
Subject: Just one Windows program keeping me from totally moving..

Thanks,

Mark
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From: Brian
Subject: Saying Hello

Hi guys,
I’m sending this simply to let you know that I listen regularly to your podcast and fully appreciate the time...

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236 – Linux For The Rest Of Us
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Emaail
I wanted to add into the advice to Robbie. in addition to not being afraid of breaking something and to learn to fix it, it’s important to also to own your mistakes. I’ve been an SA for 20 plus years and I’ve messed stuff up really bad, but I always fix it or know where to turn to get the answers of how to fix it and I always admit that I screwed up. The boss appreciates the honesty and will respect you for it. Too many people won’t admit they screwed up they are afraid that they are going to get fired or they’re not going to be trusted to do something in the future. But unless you’ve made it a habit of making the same mistakes over and over again that’s just not going to happen.

Greg
——— Hope this finds you well, Just started listening & honestly didnt want my first email to be like this, but i find myself in a quandary. Im going back to school at the earlyvage of 50 and find myself in need of a laptop something small like an xps or such, need something i can use for class work and running dual boot, as i will be taking linux and cloud courses. It dosen’t need a hard drive if it supports m.2 as i have a 500g laying round, anything you can help with would be greatly appreciated.

Make it a great day!
George
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Just wanted to say hello and let you know how much I enjoy listening to your podcast. I started using Ubuntu late last year and have been learning as much as I can about linux. I’m a Civil Engineer by trade but I’m currently taking on-line courses to land an entry level system admin position. I truly appreciate all of the information you guys talk about and I mostly enjoy the tangents that you go off on.

Thank you again and keep up the good work.

-Mario
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Hello Door,

Just wanted to reach out and let you know that I really enjoyed listening to Show #231 and reading the imposter syndrome article, really resonated with me. Been Using linux for a while, since 2001.. setup samba servers, tacacs servers, Nagios servers etc.. but never feel like I know enough to talk about it or contribute, but that doesn’t stop me from listening to Linux for the Rest of Us, really love the show, you and bruce are doing an awesome job.

Thanks

Luis.
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Linux For The Rest Of Us #238 – Thank You For The Emails Brad, East Texas, Darknet Diaries and Nobody Votes

238 – Linux For The Rest Of Us
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Daniel
I am trying fedora 31.
Since I use orca, the screen-reader, I need no monitor. But when the monitor is off, the computer does not want to work. Is there a way to tell fedora not to bother with a monitor?
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Brad’s Emails

Hey Door and Bruce,

We got asked asked a couple of us who use ZFS our opinions on the article about Linus saying “don’t use ZFS.” So I thought I would also share my comments with you guys.

What I would ideally like to see is for someone to put together an OpenZFS foundation. That should be an umbrella organization that could protect anyone from lawsuits. (again, I am not a lawyer).

–b

Here is an Ars Technica article on Linus’ (and Greg KH’s) comments..It gives a good rundown of the some of the functions that ZFS brings to the table, and where Linus misspoke.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/01/linus-torvalds-zfs-statements-arent-right-heres-the-straight-dope/

Yes...I’m back. I wanted to respond to points you made to my email.

First, the kernel belongs to Linus. I understand that, and I also understand that he has every right to say yay or nay to what goes into it. I have no problem with that aspect.

I agree that the oracle lawyers can go after any and everyone, but honestly, if Linus is going to call out ZFS for the stain of oracle, then why doesn’t he also call out BTRFS? That too was an oracle property. In fact, oracle developed BTRFS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Btrfs), not just inherited it from Sun. As a matter of fact, does java in Linux violate that rule? After all, oracle is already suing google over it. So if you are going to set up the false dichotomy with ZFS of “why take that chance,” then why take that chance with BTRFS or java?

BTRFS was Linux’...