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Life After MLM - Episode 70: LuLaBitch - Lauren Covey Carson

Episode 70: LuLaBitch - Lauren Covey Carson

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11/17/21 • 80 min

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Life After MLM

Thank you to this weeks sponsor, Best Fiends! Download Best Fiends on the Apple App Store, or Google Play today!

This month we are teaming up with igotout.org, a consortium of cult survivors supporting the #igotout movement of activism, and education, to help shine light on the commercial cults more commonly known as Multi Level Marketing. Throughout the month of November, follow along with us on social media as we share MLM statistics, cult education, survivor stories and ways you can join in on the movement. Visit igotout.org to share your MLM experience and share your #igotout selfie using the hashtags #igotout and #igotoutofanmlm on social media. Freedom of thought is a universal human right.

*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.*

I had never met or spoken to Lauren prior to LuLaRich, but I felt so connected to her while watching the documentary that I knew I needed to reach out and say hi. Lauren and I had several long chats over the course of a couple days, and learned a lot about each other. I had been struggling to find a good spot for this chat in my calendar when we decided to make November Cult Month, I knew INSTANTLY where she belonged. As we walk down LuLaRoe memory lane, Lauren let's me know about another high demand group she found herself involved with when she was in as a teen; Cascade School, a "Toubled Teen Industry" cult, where she was kidnapped in the middle of the night, and whisked off to the top of a literal mountain.

Show Notes

Watch LuLaRich on Amazon Prime Video! - https://amzn.to/3k68Axs

The Troubled Teen Industry is a Cult - https://www.troubledteenindustry.net/modern-cults

Cascade School was a Cult - https://www.reddit.com/r/troubledteens/comments/j5ocav/cascade_school_was_a_cult/

Survivor, CEDU & Ascent & Cascade & Provo Canyon School 1997-1999 - https://www.survivorsbreakingsilence.com/stories/survivor-cedu-amp-ascent-amp-cascade-amp-provo-canyon-school

Survivors Breaking Silence - https://www.survivorsbreakingsilence.com/

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

Support the Podcast!

Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins

Follow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0

Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/

Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast

Find me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevins

*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purcha...

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Thank you to this weeks sponsor, Best Fiends! Download Best Fiends on the Apple App Store, or Google Play today!

This month we are teaming up with igotout.org, a consortium of cult survivors supporting the #igotout movement of activism, and education, to help shine light on the commercial cults more commonly known as Multi Level Marketing. Throughout the month of November, follow along with us on social media as we share MLM statistics, cult education, survivor stories and ways you can join in on the movement. Visit igotout.org to share your MLM experience and share your #igotout selfie using the hashtags #igotout and #igotoutofanmlm on social media. Freedom of thought is a universal human right.

*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.*

I had never met or spoken to Lauren prior to LuLaRich, but I felt so connected to her while watching the documentary that I knew I needed to reach out and say hi. Lauren and I had several long chats over the course of a couple days, and learned a lot about each other. I had been struggling to find a good spot for this chat in my calendar when we decided to make November Cult Month, I knew INSTANTLY where she belonged. As we walk down LuLaRoe memory lane, Lauren let's me know about another high demand group she found herself involved with when she was in as a teen; Cascade School, a "Toubled Teen Industry" cult, where she was kidnapped in the middle of the night, and whisked off to the top of a literal mountain.

Show Notes

Watch LuLaRich on Amazon Prime Video! - https://amzn.to/3k68Axs

The Troubled Teen Industry is a Cult - https://www.troubledteenindustry.net/modern-cults

Cascade School was a Cult - https://www.reddit.com/r/troubledteens/comments/j5ocav/cascade_school_was_a_cult/

Survivor, CEDU & Ascent & Cascade & Provo Canyon School 1997-1999 - https://www.survivorsbreakingsilence.com/stories/survivor-cedu-amp-ascent-amp-cascade-amp-provo-canyon-school

Survivors Breaking Silence - https://www.survivorsbreakingsilence.com/

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

Support the Podcast!

Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins

Follow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0

Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/

Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast

Find me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevins

*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purcha...

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undefined - Episode 69: Molly Hale

Episode 69: Molly Hale

Thank you to this weeks sponsor, Best Fiends! Download Best Fiends on the Apple App Store, or Google Play today!

This month we are teaming up with igotout.org, a consortium of cult survivors supporting the #igotout movement of activism, and education, to help shine light on the commercial cults more commonly known as Multi Level Marketing. Throughout the month of November, follow along with us on social media as we share MLM statistics, cult education, survivor stories and ways you can join in on the movement. Visit igotout.org to share your MLM experience and share your #igotout selfie using the hashtags #igotout and #igotoutofanmlm on social media. Freedom of thought is a universal human right.

*This episode features details of a child's death, and could be triggering for some. Please use discretion when listening.*

I've been meaning to chat with Amway survivor turned Anti MLM Warrior, Molly Hale since we first connected in the LuLaRich AMA Clubhouse forum! After being in for over 6 years, Molly finally saw the light, and left, and boy does she have A LOT to say about it. We chat about her time in Amway, their insidious ties to literally everything, Ponzinomics, cult tactics, cognitive dissonance, and even share the crazy encounter that happened on stage the night we met. Somehow she turns the interview around on me, and we talk about what we want the future of the Anti MLM Movement to look like and where we think it's headed.

Show Notes

Molly's Social Media Strategy Biz - https://www.mollyhale.co/

Follow Molly on TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@mollyrhale

Follow Molly on IG - https://www.instagram.com/mollyrhale

Follow Molly on Twitter - https://twitter.com/Mollyrhale

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

Support the Podcast!

Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins

Follow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0

Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/

Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast

Find me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevins

*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.

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undefined - Episode 71: Elizabeth Brohaugh

Episode 71: Elizabeth Brohaugh

This weeks sponsor is BetterHelp. Listeners of the show receive 10% off their first month of online therapy by visiting betterhelp.com/mlm.



This month we are teaming up with igotout.org, a consortium of cult survivors supporting the #igotout movement of activism, and education, to help shine light on the commercial cults more commonly known as Multi Level Marketing. Throughout the month of November, follow along with us on social media as we share MLM statistics, cult education, survivor stories and ways you can join in on the movement. Visit igotout.org to share your MLM experience and share your #igotout selfie using the hashtags #igotout and #igotoutofanmlm on social media. Freedom of thought is a universal human right.

When I first read Elizabeth's email to me, I knew I had to talk to her for our Cult Education Month. After watching LuLaRich, and diving into the Anti MLM Movement, Elizabeth left her MLM of 3 years, and publicly denounced them on her Facebook page. We talk about the culty ways MLM crept into her life, grooming her from a sick college student, to a young newlywed, the indoctrination into the oily life, and the hoops she jumped through in the name of blind faith. We also discuss the cognitive dissonance Elizabeth felt between what Young Living told her, and what she found out.

Show Notes

Plant Therapy Essential Oils - https://www.planttherapy.com/

Life After MLM - Liz Arias - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-21-liz-arias-part-1/id1553784236?i=1000517628567

Elizabeth's Facebook post about leaving Young Living - https://www.facebook.com/elizabeth.austin.3781/posts/3144416499121352

A Dangerous Mind: Gary Young - http://gary-young-fraud.blogspot.com/2017/01/a-dangerous-mind-gary-young.html

A Little Bit Culty!! - https://www.alittlebitculty.com/

Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

Support the Podcast!

Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins

Follow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0

Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/

Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast

Find me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevins

*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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