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Legally Contented

Legally Contented

Wayne Pollock

For lawyers, law firms, and companies serving the legal industry, content marketing and thought leadership marketing are a must if they want to build their books of business or increase their revenues. In each episode of Legally Contented, Wayne Pollock, a former Am Law 50 senior associate and the founder of the Law Firm Editorial Service, interviews lawyers and legal industry in-house marketers who are doing big things with their content marketing or thought leadership marketing efforts, or experts from inside the legal industry and out who can help you do bigger things with your content marketing and thought leadership marketing efforts. If you're a lawyer, a law firm marketer, or a marketer at a company serving the legal industry and want to stay apprised of the best practices in content marketing and thought leadership marketing in the legal industry, this is the podcast for you.
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In this episode, Wayne Pollock, the founder of the Law Firm Editorial Service, interviews Scott Oliver, a partner at Lewis Kappes in Indianapolis.

Scott Oliver practices in the areas of commercial finance, real estate, and corporate transactions. He represents state and national banks involved in commercial financing, as well as clients involved in business/real estate transactions, including: real estate acquisitions/sales, business acquisitions/sales, leases, entity formation and governance, commercial issues, contract preparation, contract negotiations, and compliance.

As a closing attorney, Scott represents banks and non-bank lenders involved in SBA and conventional financing. He works in all stages of the lending process, including credit review, compliance, eligibility, lien perfection, title review/negotiations, preparation of security instruments/loan documents, subordination/intercreditor agreements, workouts, collections, foreclosure, and bankruptcy. Over the course of his career, Scott has closed hundreds of SBA 7(a) loans, SBA 504 loans, SBA CAPLine loans, and a wide range of conventional facilities. While stationed in the heart of Indianapolis, his team has closed transactions throughout the country in all 50 states.

In their discussion about how he has been able to build his visibility and his practice through LinkedIn (18K followers and counting) and X/Twitter (5.5K followers and counting), Scott and Wayne talk about, among other things:

Pivoting when the content that works on a social media platform no longer works;

The funny thing that happens when lawyers don't try too hard to get business from prospective clients;

Scott's process for creating content;

How to create original, personal content that doesn't pander;

How to consistently publish content when you're a busy professional juggling work and family responsibilities;

How LinkedIn compares to X/Twitter for lawyers looking to market themselves;

The important role social media plays in marketing and business development even when you're not posting on it; and

The future of social media marketing for lawyers.

Watch the episode on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoQlXI4EpfM
About Scott Oliver

Scott's online bio: https://lewiskappes.com/bio/SOliver.php

Scott on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottoliver5/

Scott on Twitter: https://twitter.com/SAOliver_Atty

About Wayne Pollock/the Law Firm Editorial Service

Learn more about Wayne Pollock, the host of Legally Contented: https://www.linkedin.com/in/waynepollock

Learn more about the Law Firm Editorial Service: http://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com

Do you have any idea how much money your firm is losing when its lawyers write thought leadership marketing and business development content themselves? Learn how much with the Law Firm Editorial Service's Thought Leadership Cost Calculator: https://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com/thought-leadership-cost-calculator

Check out blog posts and videos designed to help you and your colleagues improve their content marketing and thought-leadership marketing efforts:

https://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com/blog

https://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com/videos

Do you know a lawyer, law firm, or company serving the legal industry doing big things with their content marketing and/or thought leadership marketing that we should feature? Please email us at [email protected]

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In this episode, Wayne Pollock, the founder of the Law Firm Editorial Service, interviews Gyi Tsakalakis, founder of AttorneySync, a law firm marketing agency that helps law firms grow profitably with digital legal marketing and without wasting time.

In their discussion about best practices in legal marketing today, Gyi and Wayne talked about, among other things:

What is good content these days

How law firms screw up when it comes to referral marketing

The two things that all legal marketing and business development boils down to (18:25ish)

Why community marketing is underappreciated

Branding vs. direct response advertising

The state of SEO for law firms today

The importance of authorship in the age of AI

Why Gyi might not hang up the phone on an attorney who calls to discuss a metaverse strategy

Law firms and influencer marketing

What corporate law firms can learn from "direct to consumer" law firms, and vice versa

Watch the episode on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSFsD5-0mA0
About Gyi Tsakalakis

Gyi's personal website: https://gyitsakalakis.com

Gyi on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gyitsakalakis

Gyi on X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/gyitsakalakis

Gyi's podcast, Lunch Hour Legal Marketing: https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/lunch-hour-legal-marketing

Gyi's company, AttorneySync: https://www.attorneysync.com

About Wayne Pollock/the Law Firm Editorial Service

Learn more about Wayne Pollock, the host of Legally Contented: https://www.linkedin.com/in/waynepollock

Learn more about the Law Firm Editorial Service: http://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com

Do you have any idea how much money your firm is losing when its lawyers write thought leadership marketing and business development content themselves? Learn how much with the Law Firm Editorial Service's Thought Leadership Cost Calculator: https://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com/thought-leadership-cost-calculator

Check out blog posts and videos designed to help you and your colleagues improve their content marketing and thought-leadership marketing efforts:

https://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com/blog

https://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com/videos

Do you know a lawyer, law firm, or company serving the legal industry doing big things with their content marketing and/or thought leadership marketing that we should feature? Please email us at [email protected]

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In this episode, Wayne Pollock, the founder of the Law Firm Editorial Service, interviews Steve Fretzin, the premier coach, skills trainer, and keynote speaker on business development for attorneys.

Over the past 18 years, Steve has devoted his career to helping lawyers master the art of business development to achieve their business goals and the peace of mind that comes with developing a successful law practice.

In addition to writing four books on legal marketing and business development, Steve has a highly rated podcast BE THAT LAWYER and has been featured in the Chicago Tribune, Crain’s, and Entrepreneur.com. He has appeared on NBC News, WGN Radio, and has written articles for Legal Business World, Attorney at Law Magazine, the National Law Review, the American Bar Association, and the Illinois State Bar Association. You can also find his monthly column in the Chicago Daily Law Bulletin.

In their discussion about how Steve is able to be such a prolific content creator, Steve and Wayne talk about, among other things:

The relationship between marketing and business development;

The process Steve followed for writing his four books, including his first book, a parable;

The decision whether to self-publish a book versus enlist a publisher;

What your content should do instead of giving the 20,000-foot view of a topic;

Why podcasting is especially effective for lawyers and other professional services providers;

What being a prolific content creator has meant to Steve's business;

The process for determining which marketing and business development tactics a lawyer should pursue; and

Trends Steve's seeing in marketing and business development for lawyers.

Watch the episode on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e9upn4Tx9U
About Steve Fretzin

Steve's online bio: https://www.fretzin.com/about

Steve's Be That Lawyer podcast: https://www.fretzin.com/podcast

Steve's books: https://www.fretzin.com/resources/books

Steve's Chicago Daily Law Bulletin columns: https://www.chicagolawbulletin.com/search?searchtext=fretzin

Steve on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevefretzin

About Wayne Pollock/the Law Firm Editorial Service

Learn more about Wayne Pollock, the host of Legally Contented: https://www.linkedin.com/in/waynepollock

Learn more about the Law Firm Editorial Service: http://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com

Do you have any idea how much money your firm is losing when its lawyers write thought leadership marketing and business development content themselves? Learn how much with the Law Firm Editorial Service's Thought Leadership Cost Calculator: https://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com/thought-leadership-cost-calculator

Check out blog posts and videos designed to help you and your colleagues improve their content marketing and thought-leadership marketing efforts:

https://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com/blog

https://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com/videos

Do you know a lawyer, law firm, or company serving the legal industry doing big things with their content marketing and/or thought leadership marketing that we should feature? Please email us at [email protected]

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In this episode, Wayne Pollock, the founder of the Law Firm Editorial Service, interviews Shane McCall, an Equity Partner at Koprince McCall Pottroff LLC and Editor of the SmallGovCon blog. Shane has run the blog since taking it over from Steven Koprince, and recently published the "Koprince Law LLC GovCon Handbook Volume 5: Procedures and Pitfalls of Size Protests and Appeals."
​Shane helps businesses in their quest to navigate the thicket of federal government contracting, with a focus on those issues affecting small businesses. Shane excels in drafting both transactional and litigation documents and advising clients on FAR and SBA contracting rules, skills that come in handy when solving the riddles of government contracting.
In this episode, Shane and Wayne discuss, among other things:

How blogging can make attorneys better attorneys;

The direct line between content marketing/thought leadership and new client matters;

The simplicity of blogging versus other forms of marketing;

How to balance breaking news-type blog posts with substantive blog posts;

Blogs as recruiting tools; and

How to maximize attorneys' participation in blogging.
Watch the episode on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY8TMS6wFfY
About Shane McCall

Shane's online bio: https://www.koprince.com/shane-mccall

SmallGovCon blog: http://www.smallgovcon.com

Shane on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shane-mccall-71b882146

About Wayne Pollock/the Law Firm Editorial Service

Learn more about Wayne Pollock, the host of Legally Contented: https://www.linkedin.com/in/waynepollock

Learn more about the Law Firm Editorial Service: http://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com

Do you have any idea how much money your firm is losing when its lawyers write thought leadership marketing and business development content themselves? Learn how much with the Law Firm Editorial Service's Thought Leadership Cost Calculator: https://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com/thought-leadership-cost-calculator

Check out blog posts and videos designed to help you and your colleagues improve their content marketing and thought-leadership marketing efforts:

https://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com/blog

https://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com/videos

Do you know a lawyer, law firm, or company serving the legal industry doing big things with their content marketing and/or thought leadership marketing that we should feature? Please email us at [email protected]

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In this episode, Wayne Pollock, the founder of the Law Firm Editorial Service and the host of Legally Contented, recaps the five most recent interview episodes of the podcast, includes clips from them, and provides takeaways from each episode for lawyers and legal industry in-house marketers that can help them boost their content marketing and thought leadership marketing efforts.

In this episode, Wayne recaps:

Episode 47 - She built her Chambers Band 1 cannabis law practice through thought leadership (and hustle) - Hilary Bricken

Episode 50 - This Am Law 25 partner pumps out 200+ articles a year (and wrote the book on how to do so) - David Zetoony

Episode 52 - He was the THIRD attorney creating content on TikTok - Ethen Ostroff

Episode 54 - She's a Big Law alum who built a nine-attorney virtual law firm through blogging - Lisa Stam

Episode 56 - Injecting your personal voice and style into your content - Jordan Ostroff

You can watch the video recording of the episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qfwLnt8PRk

About Wayne Pollock/the Law Firm Editorial Service

Learn more about Wayne Pollock, the host of Legally Contented: https://www.linkedin.com/in/waynepollock

Learn more about the Law Firm Editorial Service: http://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com/

Do you have any idea how much money your firm is losing when its lawyers write thought leadership marketing and business development content themselves? Learn how much with the Law Firm Editorial Service's Thought Leadership Cost Calculator: https://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com/thought-leadership-cost-calculator/

Check out blog posts and videos designed to help you and your colleagues improve their content marketing and thought-leadership marketing efforts:

https://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com/blog

https://www.youtube.com/@lawfirmeditorialservice

Do you know a lawyer, law firm, or company serving the legal industry doing big things with their content marketing and/or thought leadership marketing that we should feature? Please email us at [email protected]

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In this episode, Wayne Pollock, the founder of the Law Firm Editorial Service, interviews Aiden Durham, owner of 180 Law Co., a law firm providing business law and intellectual property law services to small businesses. Aiden's YouTube channel, "All Up in Yo' Business," has more than 133,000 subscribers and is her main marketing channel.

In this episode, Aiden and Wayne discuss, among other things:

The importance of deciding the right tone and level of (in)formality to strike when recording YouTube videos

A major misconception lawyers have about what they need to do to shoot YouTube videos

How her YouTube videos allow her to connect to current and prospective clients in a unique way

The role mindset plays when you're a prolific, consistent content creator

Why she's happy to have her current and prospective clients ask about her dog

Her advice for lawyers (including B2B lawyers) who are contemplating building a YouTube following

You can watch the video recording of the episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=326kgpEpvqo.

About Aiden Durham/180 Law Co.

Aiden's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/allupinyobiz

180 Law Co. website: https://www.180lawco.com

Aiden's Twitter: https://twitter.com/_AllUpInYoBiz

Aiden's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/allupinyobusiness

About Wayne Pollock/the Law Firm Editorial Service

Learn more about Wayne Pollock, the host of Legally Contented: https://www.linkedin.com/in/waynepollock

Learn more about the Law Firm Editorial Service: http://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com

Do you have any idea how much money your firm is losing when its lawyers write thought leadership marketing and business development content themselves? Learn how much with the Law Firm Editorial Service's Thought Leadership Cost Calculator: https://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com/thought-leadership-cost-calculator

Check out blog posts and videos designed to help you and your colleagues improve their content marketing and thought-leadership marketing efforts:

https://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com/blog

https://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com/videos

Do you know a lawyer, law firm, or company serving the legal industry doing big things with their content marketing and/or thought leadership marketing that we should feature? Please email us at [email protected]

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In this episode, Wayne Pollock, the founder of the Law Firm Editorial Service, interviews Kevin LaCroix, an attorney and Executive Vice President, RT ProExec, a division of R-T Specialty, LLC. RT ProExec is an insurance intermediary focused exclusively on management liability issues.

Kevin has been involved in directors’ and officers’ liability insurance for over 35 years. For the last decade and a half, Kevin has published The D&O Diary, a blog regarding directors and officers liability.

In this episode, Kevin and Wayne discuss, among other things:

Why he started to experiment with blogging

Why he wants to set the D&O industry agenda with his blog instead of just covering industry news

The mistake law firms make all too often when blogging or curating content

How to build trust with your blog readership and the importance of not violating that trust

Why people have referred to him as the Pope and Tom Hanks of D&O insurance

How his blogging has evolved over time

The professional opportunities his blog has opened up for him

About Kevin LaCroix

D&O Diary blog: https://www.dandodiary.com/

Kevin's LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinlacroix

Kevin's Twitter: https://twitter.com/kevinlacroix

About Wayne Pollock/the Law Firm Editorial Service

Learn more about Wayne Pollock, the host of Legally Contented: https://www.linkedin.com/in/waynepollock

Learn more about the Law Firm Editorial Service: http://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com

Do you have any idea how much money your firm is losing when its lawyers write thought leadership marketing and business development content themselves? Learn how much with the Law Firm Editorial Service's Thought Leadership Cost Calculator: https://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com/thought-leadership-cost-calculator

Check out blog posts and videos designed to help you and your colleagues improve their content marketing and thought-leadership marketing efforts:

https://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com/blog

https://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com/videos

Do you know a lawyer, law firm, or company serving the legal industry doing big things with their content marketing and/or thought leadership marketing that we should feature? Please email us at [email protected]

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In this episode, Wayne Pollock, the founder of the Law Firm Editorial Service, interviews Kirk Jenkins, Senior Counsel at Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer, regarding his two appellate analytics blogs, the Illinois Supreme Court Review and the California Supreme Court Review.

In this episode, Kirk and Wayne discuss, among other things:

What working as an associate at Skadden was like during the M&A boom of the 1980s

The ins and outs of building an appellate practice today, including why appellate lawyers can have difficulty with their marketing and business development efforts

Why Kirk decided to niche down with an analytics-driven thought leadership strategy instead of a traditional strategy of reporting on appellate decisions

How Kirk went about building the database that informs his analytics-driven content

The client opportunities and media opportunities his blogs have afforded him

How Kirk repackages his blog posts to keep his content marketing flywheel spinning

Why Kirk thinks "thought leadership has never been as important as it is today"

About Kirk Jenkins

Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer bio: https://www.arnoldporter.com/en/people/j/jenkins-kirk

Kirk's Illinois Supreme Court Review blog: https://www.illinoissupremecourtreview.com

Kirk's California Supreme Court Review blog: https://www.californiasupremecourtreview.com

Kirk's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kirkcjenkins

About Wayne Pollock/the Law Firm Editorial Service

Learn more about Wayne Pollock, the host of Legally Contented: https://www.linkedin.com/in/waynepollock

Learn more about the Law Firm Editorial Service: http://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com

Do you have any idea how much money your firm is losing when its lawyers write thought leadership marketing and business development content themselves? Learn how much with the Law Firm Editorial Service's Thought Leadership Cost Calculator: https://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com/thought-leadership-cost-calculator

Check out blog posts and videos designed to help you and your colleagues improve their content marketing and thought-leadership marketing efforts:

https://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com/blog

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCo_HDI1-CbzbAuczW0XywYA

Do you know a lawyer, law firm, or company serving the legal industry doing big things with their content marketing and/or thought leadership marketing that we should feature? Please email us at [email protected]

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In this episode, Wayne Pollock (Founder of the Law Firm Editorial Service) explains six ways that thought leadership can help attorneys secure speaking engagements.

1. It gets them exposure to event organizers and people who influence those organizers.

2. It gives them credibility as someone knowledgeable and wise about the topics they cover, the areas of law they practice, and the industries they serve.

3. It shows event organizers they can tackle a wide range of topics.

4. It gives event organizers a preview of their stage presence.

5. When their thought leadership helps them build a social media following or a large number of subscribers to a newsletter, those followers and subscribers show event organizers people are interested in what the attorneys have to say.

6. When an attorney's thought leadership is published in third-party publications, and/or leads to media interviews or podcast invitations, event organizers realize the attorney is in demand and recognized as an established thought leader who attendees will want to hear from.

Learn more about Wayne Pollock, the host of Legally Contented and the founder of the Law Firm Editorial Service: https://www.linkedin.com/in/waynepollock

Learn more about the Law Firm Editorial Service:
http://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com

Do you have any idea how much money your firm is losing when its lawyers write thought-leadership marketing and business development content themselves?

Learn how much with the Law Firm Editorial Service's Thought Leadership Cost Calculator:
http://www.WriteLessBillMore.com

Check out blog posts and videos designed to help you and your colleagues improve their content marketing and thought-leadership marketing efforts:

https://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com/blog

https://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com/videos

Do you have a question about content marketing or thought-leadership marketing you would like us to answer on a future Practice Pointer episode? Please email us at [email protected]

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In this episode, Wayne Pollock, the founder of the Law Firm Editorial Service, interviews Taly Goody, the founder of Goody Law Group, a personal injury and employment law firm serving clients in California and Wyoming.

With 89,000+ followers on TikTok, and 14,000+ followers on Instagram, Taly is building her law firm—which she co-owns with her husband Greyson Goody—through her social media marketing efforts and her ability to reach more than 100,000 followers through her social media posts.

In this episode, Taly and Wayne covered, among other things:

Where she gets inspiration for her social media posts

Whether her social media presence rubs her referral sources the wrong way

How she knew her social media efforts were paying off

Whether she was concerned about her being the sole face of her law firm

How she has used social media as a springboard for additional marketing efforts

What it means for lawyers to use social media intentionally

Watch the episode on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMuO2esbhhM
About Taly Goody

Taly's online bio: http://goodylawgroup.com/our-attorneys

Taly on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@talygoodyesq

Taly on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/talygoodyesq

Taly on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TalyGoodyEsq

About Wayne Pollock/the Law Firm Editorial Service

Learn more about Wayne Pollock, the host of Legally Contented: https://www.linkedin.com/in/waynepollock

Learn more about the Law Firm Editorial Service: http://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com

Do you have any idea how much money your firm is losing when its lawyers write thought leadership marketing and business development content themselves?

Learn how much with the Law Firm Editorial Service's Thought Leadership Cost Calculator: https://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com/thought-leadership-cost-calculator

Check out blog posts and videos designed to help you and your colleagues improve their content marketing and thought-leadership marketing efforts:

https://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com/blog

https://www.lawfirmeditorialservice.com/videos

Do you know a lawyer, law firm, or company serving the legal industry doing big things with their content marketing and/or thought leadership marketing that we should feature? Please email us at [email protected]

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How many episodes does Legally Contented have?

Legally Contented currently has 114 episodes available.

What topics does Legally Contented cover?

The podcast is about Lawyer, Marketing, Content Marketing, Legal, Law Firm, Podcasts and Business.

What is the most popular episode on Legally Contented?

The episode title 'Practice Pointer: Four tips for converting webinars into articles people will actually read' is the most popular.

What is the average episode length on Legally Contented?

The average episode length on Legally Contented is 25 minutes.

How often are episodes of Legally Contented released?

Episodes of Legally Contented are typically released every 8 days.

When was the first episode of Legally Contented?

The first episode of Legally Contented was released on Mar 1, 2022.

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