
Podcast 113 – Meghan Markle & Mellody Hobson discuss gender equity & Meghan’s privacy case has reached the UK Court of Appeal
11/10/21 • 8 min
Mellody Hobson is President and co-CEO of Ariel Investments which manages millions of dollars of investments. In 2017, she became the first African American woman to head The Economic Club of Chicago and this year she hit another milestone for women and for black women in particular, in becoming the chairwoman of Starbucks.
During the 30 minutes discussion, Andrew Ross Sorkin sped over various topics with the ladies both on the issue of gender equity and then, taking advantage of having Meghan present, he asked her about various personal issues being talked about by the media right now, including:
- Meghan's involvement in the Paid Leave campaign in the U.S. and whether she was anxious about seen as being involved in a political issue;
- Meghan's views on social media and media in general; and
- The progress of Meghan's U.K. court case versus Associated Newspapers.
The UK Court of Appeal case in which Associated Newspapers, owners of the UK newspapers the Daily Mail, the Mail on Sunday, and Metro amongst others, appealed the judgment in which they were found to have breached Meghan’s right to privacy and breach of copyright, when they published extracts from her post wedding letter to her father Thomas back in 2019.
Newspaper lawyers on behalf of Thomas, who is not a party to the case (and as we all know is not shy from giving multiple interviews to the press during which he invariably throws insults at Meghan and Harry) claim that Thomas only handed his copy of Meghan’s letter to the U.K. Mail newspaper in response to how he felt he was wrongly portrayed in a 2019 People Magazine article. The newspaper takes the position that Mr. Markel is the poor victim in the story , was misrepresented in the People Magazine article, and assert that Thomas was justified in defending his "reputation."
The UK appeal is being lived streamed, with the newspaper starting to put in their arguments. What they have to show is that the trial judge, Justice Warby, was wrong to have decided the case using the court’s summary judgment mechanism as opposed to sending the case for a full trial, when witnesses including possibly Meghan and Thomas would be called to testify. The newspaper has to show that there is a 'triable issue' requiring the Court to hold a full-trial to be able to determine the outcome of the case.
As of today, there are at least two more days of arguments left, which will include time for Meghan’s lawyer to present their reply submissions.
I have put the link to the videos of the live stream via YouTube on my blog at https://www.kindthoughtsformeghanmarkle.com/ and on my twitter account @jeanettesongolo https://twitter.com/JeanetteSongolo. You can also find the links at the UK High Court / Court of Appeal website.
An interestin
Show written and produced by Jeanette Songolo.
Please keep listening for future podcasts on all things Meghan, Harry, Archie and Lili and in the meantime watch out for other posts on all things Sussex on my blog at https://www.kindthoughtsformeghanmarkle.com/
Mellody Hobson is President and co-CEO of Ariel Investments which manages millions of dollars of investments. In 2017, she became the first African American woman to head The Economic Club of Chicago and this year she hit another milestone for women and for black women in particular, in becoming the chairwoman of Starbucks.
During the 30 minutes discussion, Andrew Ross Sorkin sped over various topics with the ladies both on the issue of gender equity and then, taking advantage of having Meghan present, he asked her about various personal issues being talked about by the media right now, including:
- Meghan's involvement in the Paid Leave campaign in the U.S. and whether she was anxious about seen as being involved in a political issue;
- Meghan's views on social media and media in general; and
- The progress of Meghan's U.K. court case versus Associated Newspapers.
The UK Court of Appeal case in which Associated Newspapers, owners of the UK newspapers the Daily Mail, the Mail on Sunday, and Metro amongst others, appealed the judgment in which they were found to have breached Meghan’s right to privacy and breach of copyright, when they published extracts from her post wedding letter to her father Thomas back in 2019.
Newspaper lawyers on behalf of Thomas, who is not a party to the case (and as we all know is not shy from giving multiple interviews to the press during which he invariably throws insults at Meghan and Harry) claim that Thomas only handed his copy of Meghan’s letter to the U.K. Mail newspaper in response to how he felt he was wrongly portrayed in a 2019 People Magazine article. The newspaper takes the position that Mr. Markel is the poor victim in the story , was misrepresented in the People Magazine article, and assert that Thomas was justified in defending his "reputation."
The UK appeal is being lived streamed, with the newspaper starting to put in their arguments. What they have to show is that the trial judge, Justice Warby, was wrong to have decided the case using the court’s summary judgment mechanism as opposed to sending the case for a full trial, when witnesses including possibly Meghan and Thomas would be called to testify. The newspaper has to show that there is a 'triable issue' requiring the Court to hold a full-trial to be able to determine the outcome of the case.
As of today, there are at least two more days of arguments left, which will include time for Meghan’s lawyer to present their reply submissions.
I have put the link to the videos of the live stream via YouTube on my blog at https://www.kindthoughtsformeghanmarkle.com/ and on my twitter account @jeanettesongolo https://twitter.com/JeanetteSongolo. You can also find the links at the UK High Court / Court of Appeal website.
An interestin
Show written and produced by Jeanette Songolo.
Please keep listening for future podcasts on all things Meghan, Harry, Archie and Lili and in the meantime watch out for other posts on all things Sussex on my blog at https://www.kindthoughtsformeghanmarkle.com/
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Podcast 112 – Continuing collaborative work + Meghan Markle & Prince Harry’s pledge to Carbon Net Zero
Meghan and Harry, who in the past have been criticized in the media for using too many aeroplane flights, continue to advocate – using the more environmentally friendly means of letter writing, emails and phone calls – to push for Paid Leave to be included in the U.S. social spending Bill, as well as continuing to press wealthy G20 countries to share COVID-19 vaccines with low-to-mid income countries.
As other members of the UK Royal Family attended at the COP26 conference in Glasgow, Meghan and Harry’s Archewell organization took action and announced that they pledged to a sustainable future, aiming to become net zero by 2030.
In their announcement that is published on their Archewell website, Meghan and Harry speak of their long-standing commitment to the planet, both together and prior to their marriage, with global projects and partnerships dating back over a decade.
Meghan and Harry say that they will work with an independent consultant to track all Archewell-related activities to understand what their current carbon footprint is, then using 2022 as a baseline year, they will develop a plan for Archewell that aligns with the latest guidance from leading organizations, like the Greenhouse Gas Protocol and the Science-Based Targets Initiative, saying they will be offsetting remaining emissions until they achieve net zero in 2030 and beyond.
As well as this work, we hear that Meghan will soon join a panel discussion as part of the two-day New York Times DealBook Summit. Meghan's event is titled "Minding the Gap" when she joins Mellody Hobson, the Co-C.E.O. and President of Ariel Investments, to ponder the question - How can women reach economic and professional parity?
It has also been announced that Prince Harry is participating in a conference being put on by the https://re.wired.com/c/re-wired (WIRED) organization, which will discuss all things technology and how it affects the way that we live, work, and connect. The November conference is being described as a series of conversations between technologists and people who think hard about the consequences of technologies on society, economics, sustainability, and our future.
Prince Harry will be part of a panel discussion called The Internet Lie Machine – looking into what is called the real cost of a lie on the internet—to ourselves, our communities, our societies.
More details of both of these events and links to them as well as other stories that don’t make it into this podcast can be found on my twitter account @Jeanette Songolo https://twitter.com/JeanetteSongolo
Show written and produced by Jeanette Songolo.
Please keep listening for future podcasts on all things Meghan, Harry, Archie and Lili and in the meantime watch out for other posts on all things Sussex on my blog at https://www.kindthoughtsformeghanmarkle.com/
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Podcast 114 – Prince Harry honours servicemen, women & vets. at the New York City, Salute to Freedom Gala & other news
Covered in this podcast are the following 3 topics:
- Prince Harry's participation in the WIRED – RE: WIRED conference, when he was part of a panel discussion about the dangers of misinformation and hate speech in the media, whether printed or on-line. What are superspreaders?
- Harry's and Meghan's appearance at the Salute to Freedom Gala in New York City, when Harry had the honour of being asked to present the inaugural Intrepid Valor Awards, and the heartfelt speech Harry gave in support of all veterans, servicemen and servicewomen, and recognising in particular those dealing with mental and physical injuries as a result of their service.
- And, the continuation of the UK Court of Appeal case in which Associated Newspapers are appealing Meghan’s win against them, with new evidence revealed which does not help Meghan's credibility, but which may not be relevant. Meghan's lawyers started to make their arguments in the appeal.
Please keep listening for future podcasts on all things Meghan, Harry, Archie and Lili. You can reach out to me through my blog at https://www.kindthoughtsformeghanmarkle.com/ and on twitter https://twitter.com/JeanetteSongolo
Show written and produced by Jeanette Songolo.
Please keep listening for future podcasts on all things Meghan, Harry, Archie and Lili and in the meantime watch out for other posts on all things Sussex on my blog at https://www.kindthoughtsformeghanmarkle.com/
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