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10/17/21 • 47 min
“I part company ... with the majority’s conclusion that, before certifying a class, the district court must find that only a ‘de minimis’ number of class members are uninjured. The text of Rule 23 contains no such requirement, nor do our precedents. The majority’s effective amendment of Rule 23 not only ignores our case law but also circumvents the established process for modifying a Rule of Civil Procedure—study and advice from the relevant committees, followed by the consent of the Supreme Court and Congress’s tacit approval.”
That is what Ninth Circuit Judge Andrew Hurwitz said in his partial concurrence and partial dissent in Olean Wholesale v. Bumble Bee, in which the panel itself set the wheels in motion for en banc review of a holding that, if allowed to stand, would have added another high hurdle for plaintiffs to overcome in achieving certification of class actions. The full court decertified the decision pending review.
For insights into the case are two attorneys who submitted arguments in the case. They are Karla Gilbride, Senior Attorney at Public Justice, and Jocelyn D. Larkin, Executive Director at the Impact Fund.
Listen to what they say about the case, why it’s significant, and what they believe will be the ultimate outcome.
I hope you find the episode inspiring and informative!
Susan Gombert
Host
Justice Pod: Conversations with Public Justice Change Makers

03/06/23 • 28 min
Have you ever found yourself walking down the grocery store aisle and wondering which of the many different claims boasting the most natural or healthy ingredients to believe? It's confusing. It turns out that confusion is intentional. In this episode we learn why.
Our guests are two members of the Public Justice Food Project – Litigation Director David Muraskin and Communications and Organizing Coordinator Masha Vernik.
David, Masha, and their team recently published “Hormel Deep Dive,” a groundbreaking website that provides access to an archive of compelling and previously inaccessible documents uncovered in false advertising litigation against Hormel Foods.
“Consumers want to shop in ways that align with their values,” the website’s description reads, “but the lack of transparency in labeling and advertising poses a major barrier to doing so. This deep dive introduces revelations—many in Hormel’s own words—about the severity of Hormel’s factory-farm practices and the extent to which Hormel sought to deceive and take advantage of customers in marketing its line.” The documents – including marketing materials, depositions of Hormel executives, and tradeshow presentations – "paint a damning picture of industrial meat products like Hormel’s and the branding used to sell them.”
Listen to what David and Masha have to say about what these documents reveal and why they matter to consumers. Also, hear why this deep-dive approach is a model for leveraging and surfacing hard-won litigation discovery to more broadly expose the details of corporate misconduct.
David focuses on impact litigation – actions intended to bring about societal change – to counter the harms of corporate concentration, particularly in the industrial animal agriculture sector. David litigates constitutional, consumer, and worker matters. Prior to joining Public Justice, David prosecuted qui tam litigation, served as the Alan Morrison Supreme Court Assistance Project Fellow with Public Citizen, and clerked for Judge James L. Dennis on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit. David has taught courses on impact litigation and complex civil litigation at George Washington Law School, Vermont Law School, and Georgetown University Law Center. He graduated from Stanford Law School with distinction, has a master's from Oxford University, St. Anthony's College, in forced migration, and received a BA from the University of Chicago with highest honors.
Masha supports “the movement part” of movement-oriented legal advocacy by crafting strategic narratives alongside impacted communities to make the case for a regenerative and just food system. Masha organizes a seed-saving network
for growers to connect with culturally resonant seeds as part of the Jewish Seed
Project. She came to Public Justice with experience as a city council campaign manager in Cambridge, Massachusetts, a farm worker at a mid-sized diversity
vegetable farm in Washington State, and as a student organizer for fossil fuel divestment. Marsha graduated from Boston University, summa cum laude,
with a BA in International Relations.
I hope you find this episode inspiring and informative! We’re very proud of the work David and Masha do, and appreciate them sharing their experience on this important
project.
Susan Gombert, Host
Justice Pod: Conversations with Public Justice Change Makers

05/26/22 • 59 min
The Federal Arbitration Act is clear, Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan wrote: "[C]ourts are not to create arbitration-specific procedural rules .... Or put conversely, it is a bar on using custom-made rules, to tilt the playing field in favor of (or against) arbitration."
With the support of all eight of her colleagues, Justice Kagan's opinion in Morgan v. Sundance put an end to the long-running tilt of justice toward employers in the form of judge-made rules that favor arbitration. This important holding clears the way for more workers, consumers, and other individuals harmed by corporate misconduct to pursue their rights in open court.
Karla Gilbride, Senior Attorney at Public Justice, argued the case to the high court on behalf of the plaintiff, Robyn Morgan, an hourly employee at a Taco Bell franchise owned by Sundance, Inc. It was not only Gilbride's first Supreme Court argument, but she was the first blind attorney to do so in the court's history.
Listen to Public Justice's Ellen Noble -- who assisted in the case -- as she interviews Gilbride about her remarkable experience. This is a must listen not only for attorneys who represent workers, but for anyone interested in Supreme Court history, or the ongoing need for accommodations for the disabled, or anyone preparing for oral arguments at any level. Gilbride shares the thrill of arguing in the same spot -- and directly in front of! -- some of her heroes and inspirations. She also shares that, like a music fan who camps out in front of a box office to get tickets for their favorite band, a young Gilbride did just that in order to secure a seat to observe her first Supreme Court argument.
Asked for a comment, Gilbride said the Supreme Court has finally “put an end to the arbitration exceptionalism that many corporations have been seeking, and that many courts have been giving them.”
After you listen to the podcast, you can hear Gilbride's argument and read the complete transcript of the hearing. You can also read and watch more about the case on the Public Justice Blog.
I hope you find this episode inspiring and informative! We are all so very proud of Karla, Ellen and the whole team, and are thrilled with the important, decisive, and unanimous outcome they achieved.
Susan Gombert
Host
Justice Pod: Conversations with Public Justice Change Makers

09/28/21 • 57 min
Monsanto Co. has "stopped at nothing to deny the overwhelming scientific evidence" that its widely used and extremely profitable weed killer, Roundup, is a "deadly product that causes cancer and ruins lives and families."
That is according to a post written by Leslie Brueckner, Senior Attorney with Public Justice following the May 2021 Ninth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals ruling against Monsanto, and for Edwin Hardeman, a California resident who developed non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma after decades of exposure to Roundup. The jury awarded Hardeman $5,267.634.10 in compensatory damages, and $75 million in punitive damages. The district court reduced the punitive damages award to $20 million.
In this inaugural episode of Justice Pod: Conversations with Public Justice Change Makers, Leslie, is joined by David J. Wool, an attorney with the Wagstaff Law Firm. Wool and Jennifer A. Moore of the Moore Law Group, were on the trial team led by highly-regarded mass tort plaintiff attorney Aimee Wagstaff. Public Justice's Brueckner served as co-lead appellate counsel along with Wool before the Ninth Circuit.
Listen to what they felt inspired the jury to return such a substantial award, how Monsanto attempted to defend its actions, what the evidence revealed, and what it was like in the courtroom with the Hardeman family when the foreman read the verdict.
I hope you find the episode inspiring and informative!
Susan Gombert
Host of Justice Pod:
Conversations with Public Justice Change Makers
FAQ
How many episodes does JusticePod have?
JusticePod currently has 4 episodes available.
What topics does JusticePod cover?
The podcast is about News, Law, News Commentary, Podcasts and Civil Rights.
What is the most popular episode on JusticePod?
The episode title 'The "Hormel Deep Dive" -- A New Model for Sharing Evidence of Corporate Misconduct' is the most popular.
What is the average episode length on JusticePod?
The average episode length on JusticePod is 48 minutes.
How often are episodes of JusticePod released?
Episodes of JusticePod are typically released every 220 days, 23 hours.
When was the first episode of JusticePod?
The first episode of JusticePod was released on Sep 28, 2021.
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