E9 "Struggle Sessions and Cancel Cults"
07/06/20 • 65 min
Biblical Justice: What is it? "Justice" by the Bible Project
“Vengeance Is Mine Says The Lord” vs “Vengeance Is Mine Says Me”
Restorative Justice vs. Retributive Justice
“Retributive justice is a perspective that focuses on punishment for offenders, while restorative justice focuses on the relationship between the offender and the victim.”
-Cain and Abel (Genesis 4)
Retributive Justice has two sides
Struggle Sessions and the Knitting Wars
“A struggle session was a form of public humiliation and torture that was used by the Communist Party of China (CPC) at various times in the Mao era, particularly years immediately before and after the establishment of the People’s Republic of China and during the Cultural Revolution. The aim of a struggle session was to shape public opinion and humiliate, persecute, or execute political rivals and those deemed class enemies.
In general, the victim of a struggle session was forced to admit various crimes before a crowd of people who would verbally and physically abuse the victim until he or she confessed. Struggle sessions were often held at the workplace of the accused, but they were sometimes conducted in sports stadiums where large crowds would gather if the target was well-known.” -Wikipedia
“Cancel culture refers to the popular practice of withdrawing support for (canceling) public figures and companies after they have done or said something considered objectionable or offensive. Cancel culture is generally discussed as being performed on social media in the form of group shaming.”
“There’s just something unsustainable about an environment that demands constant atonement but actively disdains the very idea of forgiveness” -Elizabeth Bruenig
Biblical Justice: What is it? "Justice" by the Bible Project
“Vengeance Is Mine Says The Lord” vs “Vengeance Is Mine Says Me”
Restorative Justice vs. Retributive Justice
“Retributive justice is a perspective that focuses on punishment for offenders, while restorative justice focuses on the relationship between the offender and the victim.”
-Cain and Abel (Genesis 4)
Retributive Justice has two sides
Struggle Sessions and the Knitting Wars
“A struggle session was a form of public humiliation and torture that was used by the Communist Party of China (CPC) at various times in the Mao era, particularly years immediately before and after the establishment of the People’s Republic of China and during the Cultural Revolution. The aim of a struggle session was to shape public opinion and humiliate, persecute, or execute political rivals and those deemed class enemies.
In general, the victim of a struggle session was forced to admit various crimes before a crowd of people who would verbally and physically abuse the victim until he or she confessed. Struggle sessions were often held at the workplace of the accused, but they were sometimes conducted in sports stadiums where large crowds would gather if the target was well-known.” -Wikipedia
“Cancel culture refers to the popular practice of withdrawing support for (canceling) public figures and companies after they have done or said something considered objectionable or offensive. Cancel culture is generally discussed as being performed on social media in the form of group shaming.”
“There’s just something unsustainable about an environment that demands constant atonement but actively disdains the very idea of forgiveness” -Elizabeth Bruenig
Previous Episode
E8 "Joe Rogan and Naval Ravikant"
In this episode Daniel and Nate reflect on an interview of Naval Ravikant by Joe Rogan and the echoes of Godly principles heard in the interview. Here are links to some of the resources mentioned:
-Joe Rogan and Naval Ravikant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qHkcs3kG44Naval's Podcast
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/naval/id1454097755
-First Principle Thinking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV3sBlRgzTI
-Joe Rogan and Pavel Tsatsouline
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm0GNWSKzYs"With my family I am a communist
with friends I am a socialist
with local level governments I am a democrat
with state level governments I am a republican
and with the federal government I am a libertarian"
-Nassim Nicholas Taleb
Everyone has bills and a boss... but we should be working towards having neither (1 Samuel 8 Israel asks for a king and God warns Israel that bills and and bosses will be the consequence)
-BibleProject Sabbath (7th day ideal)
https://bibleproject.com/explore/what-is-the-sabbath/
-BibleProject “Jesus and His Jubilee Mission”
https://bibleproject.com/podcast/jesus-and-his-jubilee-mission/
Next Episode
E10 "How can the Church DO Justice?"
Practicing Justice in the Church
Charles Lee “The Freeze Project” and LaundryLove.comWhat can the church do to “do justice and love mercy”? Micah 6:8
- Retributive Justice
- Should the Church hire Kingdom Lawyers to review and defend underserved and underrepresented individuals that are not getting justice?
- If the church does not have the means to hire someone full-time on staff, are there organizations already doing this work that the church can support? Ex: The Innocence Project and/or The Equal Justice Initiative?
- Restorative Justice
- Debt Annihilation House Churches paying off each other’s consumer debts after completing the personal debt snowball.
- Cancelling medical debt through organizations like RIP Medical Debt.
- “Baby Bonds” The Church would set aside $10,000 for children born into the congregation upon their birth. This would mature for 22 years into ~80k and it would be an effort to give all an equal opportunity as they start their adult life. We cannot control equal efforts made or equal outcomes, but we can provide an equal opportunity(Luke 19, Matthew 25). But one my ask, “should we just give 22 year olds money just for being born? Might this tempt the immature to follow in the footsteps of the prodigal son?” Galatians 5:13-15
The Church should provide a curriculum of life changing experiences in order to shape the worldview of those that will take on the responsibility of these funds so that they will be as a blessing and not a curse unto them.
- The 7 Experiences
- Climb a mountain as a part of a “Trek” type ministry.
- Complete a significant sailing passage as crew with a ministry such as “God and the Sea”
- Go on a journey to the holy lands.
- Experience abject poverty.
- Attend a PDC & ATC and become certified in both at a location such as Wheaton Labs.
- Attend a building workshop through Domegaia, Bamboo U, Monolithic Dome Institute, Earthship Biotecture, etc. and build and live in a small structure for a month that demonstrates the building technique you have learned for the workshop and write a paper on the experience and what you would do differently if you were to build a forever home.
- They would have to attend and pass a financial peace course with curriculum formed by a Christian organization such as Thrivent.
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