Who Needs Hackers' Rights? | RSA Conference 2020 | With Chloé Messdaghi, Tanner Emek, Jeff Boothby
03/02/20 • 23 min
Thank you for joining us at the intersection of technology, cybersecurity, and society. In this episode, Sean and Marco are coming to you from the RSA Conference in San Francisco and are joined by Chloé Messdaghi, Tanner Emek, and Jeff Boothby.
We all use the Internet and Internet-connected devices.
So, who needs hackers’ rights? We all do.
We've had several conversations here on ITSPmagazine over the years where we talk about cybersecurity research, ethical hacking, why this role in InfoSec exists, how bug bounties work. The benefits the hackers' work brings to society.
In today's conversation, we take a much more direct view into the role and the impact that current laws and a lack of understanding outside of the InfoSec industry can have—and does have—on the ethical hackers' lives… and, ultimately, in our society.
We must recognize that ethical hackers aren't cybercriminals—the work that they do matters. As we look for ways to protect our homes, our cars, the stores where we shop—not to mention that we want to have a safe Internet as well—we must come to terms with the reality that hackers are part of the solution, not part of the problem.
Not convinced? Have a listen and decide for yourself.
Guest(s)
Chloé Messdaghi | Tanner Emek | Jeff Boothby
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Thank you for joining us at the intersection of technology, cybersecurity, and society. In this episode, Sean and Marco are coming to you from the RSA Conference in San Francisco and are joined by Chloé Messdaghi, Tanner Emek, and Jeff Boothby.
We all use the Internet and Internet-connected devices.
So, who needs hackers’ rights? We all do.
We've had several conversations here on ITSPmagazine over the years where we talk about cybersecurity research, ethical hacking, why this role in InfoSec exists, how bug bounties work. The benefits the hackers' work brings to society.
In today's conversation, we take a much more direct view into the role and the impact that current laws and a lack of understanding outside of the InfoSec industry can have—and does have—on the ethical hackers' lives… and, ultimately, in our society.
We must recognize that ethical hackers aren't cybercriminals—the work that they do matters. As we look for ways to protect our homes, our cars, the stores where we shop—not to mention that we want to have a safe Internet as well—we must come to terms with the reality that hackers are part of the solution, not part of the problem.
Not convinced? Have a listen and decide for yourself.
Guest(s)
Chloé Messdaghi | Tanner Emek | Jeff Boothby
This Episode’s Sponsors:
ReversingLabs: itspm.ag/itsprvslweb
Devo: https://itspm.ag/itspdvweb
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SecureStack: https://itspm.ag/scstitspdir
To see and hear more event coverage content on ITSPmagazine, visit:
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For more stories from RSA Conference 2020, be sure to visit https://www.itspmagazine.com/rsa-conference-usa-2020-rsac-san-francisco-coverage
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CISOs Are People Too | What Do CISOs Dream About? | With Laz, Deborah Blyth, Nils Puhlmann | RSA Conference 2020
Thank you for joining us at the intersection of technology, cybersecurity, and society. In this episode, Sean and Marco are coming to you from the RSA Conference in San Francisco and are joined by Laz, Deborah Blyth, and Nils Puhlmann.
CISOs are people too—and they dream just like the rest of us.
The question is: What do they dream about?
CISOs, arguably, have one of the toughest jobs in the InfoSec industry. Oftentimes, you’ll hear people ask them “what keeps you up at night?” suggesting that they only have nightmares. However, as note above, CISOs are people too—and they dream just like the rest of us.
So, to mix things up a bit—changing the narrative from negative to positive—we discuss what the CISO dreams about for the executive-level role, both in the near-term and the long-haul.
This is a conversation I’ve been dreaming about having for quite a while and my dream finally came true as Laz, Deborah Blyth, and Nils Puhlmann—current and former CISOs—joined us during RSA Conference 2020 to look at their role, their teams, their processes, their technologies, the culture, and so much more.
These are a few of the highlights from the conversation:
- How employees and citizens play a role in the CISO role
- Reducing complexity in technology, both operationally and conversationally
- The value of culture across the organization at all levels; what does it take to get there?
- Changing the way we measure success for the role (and who is responsible for evaluation)
- Funding... what's the reality here?
Ultimately, the CISO community needs to continue to work together, but also needs to find ways to strengthen their relationship with others at the board level, executive level, and operational level. Additionally, it's clear that the overall view and function of the role also needs to continue to mature if we are going to attract new talent to take on this critical position.
Guest(s)
Laz | Deborah Blyth | Nils Puhlmann
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The Importance Of CyberSecurity Storytelling | With Rohit Ghai, CEO, RSA Security | Their Story
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Our brains are wired to process things in the form of stories. Are we telling all the right stories though?
The InfoSec industry has done a lot of work to raise awareness around the risks we face in business and society, thereby increasing the appreciation for the need to protect our companies and ourselves from cybercrime, fraud, and other dangerous activity associated with being connected to the Internet.
Unfortunately, the stories that have been told—and the stories that the media pick up and amplify—are often those that paint a picture of doom, and gloom, and failure.
As Rohit points out in our conversation, this isn't a failure of the media, necessarily, it's more a function of the industry not telling the full story; not telling all of the stories.
These are some of the points raised during our chat:
- Why do we focus on stories about risk and loss?
- Why don't we share stories of wins and success?
- Does elitism drive toward a state of complacency in some areas?
- What roles do humans, our culture, and diversity and inclusion play in storytelling?
Ultimately, it may be that we aren't defining the ending to our stories in a way that we want them to end. To this end, do we know what does it mean to win? For which side? Do we know what it means to lose? For which side? And, most importantly, does winning on one side equal losing on the other? In both directions?
Answering these questions can help us change the way we want our stories to be heard; it can help us improve the way we tell our story — can help us change the way we live our story.
Are you ready to change the narrative for a better story, a better outcome? Have a listen to this story, and then start telling yours.
Guest(s)
Rohit Ghai, CEO
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