Chris Matthews: To Win, Joe Biden Must Prove Himself

04/24/20 • 76 min

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The first episode under new co-hosts Emily Jane Fox and Joe Hagan features an exclusive interview with Chris Matthews, former host of HARDBALL on MSNBC, who discusses with Hagan his controversial exit after 20 years and analyzes a presidential election thrown into chaos by the pandemic. Can Joe Biden break through? Was Bernie Sanders right? Why does Matthews prefer Amy Klobuchar over Stacey Abrams for Biden’s VP? An in-depth conversation on the “highly unpredictable” politics of 2020.

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