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Drums of the Jungle: Uncovering Chimpanzee Life [Audio Journey]
08/28/24 • 27 min
Intelligence, knowledge, society, culture—these are often seen as exclusive human traits, setting us apart from the rest of the animal kingdom. But what if we’re wrong? What if the sounds in the natural world hold more truth than we can accept?
Dr. Kathelijne Koops, a primatologist and biological anthropologist from the University of Zurich, takes us deep into the dense forests of the Nimba Mountains in Western Africa. Amid ancient trees and whispering winds, we encounter sounds that challenge our very understanding of what it means to be human. This episode is sparked by an exhibit at Science Gallery Bengaluru, created by the sound artist Nikki Buzzi.
The forest is not for the faint of heart. Proceed with caution. What you hear might just change you... forever.
Note: This episode contains original sounds recorded in the field. Please use headphones for optimal experience.
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Guests: Dr. Kathelijne Koops, Nikki Buzzi
Producers: Dinesh
Editor: Abhinav Suresh
Cover Art: Akshay Joshi
Kathelijne Koops’s Website
Intelligence, knowledge, society, culture—these are often seen as exclusive human traits, setting us apart from the rest of the animal kingdom. But what if we’re wrong? What if the sounds in the natural world hold more truth than we can accept?
Dr. Kathelijne Koops, a primatologist and biological anthropologist from the University of Zurich, takes us deep into the dense forests of the Nimba Mountains in Western Africa. Amid ancient trees and whispering winds, we encounter sounds that challenge our very understanding of what it means to be human. This episode is sparked by an exhibit at Science Gallery Bengaluru, created by the sound artist Nikki Buzzi.
The forest is not for the faint of heart. Proceed with caution. What you hear might just change you... forever.
Note: This episode contains original sounds recorded in the field. Please use headphones for optimal experience.
Do you like the Innocence Theory Podcast? Tell your friends, support ITP on Patreon, and have your boss sponsor an episode.
Guests: Dr. Kathelijne Koops, Nikki Buzzi
Producers: Dinesh
Editor: Abhinav Suresh
Cover Art: Akshay Joshi
Kathelijne Koops’s Website
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Repost: The Moon & Chandrayaan part 1/2
Join us as we revisit the historic success of Chandrayaan 3 on its first anniversary. Relive the moments that made the lunar mission a global milestone!
In this episode we gaze at the moon, rediscover our romantic cosmic neighbour, — is it as pleasant as it seems or is it a hostile place with a violent past? What’s the story of moon mountains, gravitational lumps and permanent shadow region(PSR)? What’s the story of water in the moon, where is it present and how did we come to know? More importantly, why is the moon a great candidate to decipher our cosmic origin
Listen to the two part series - to learn a little deeper about the moon and the context of Chandrayaan 3 mission to truly appreciate the endeavour. What does all of these missions mean to us, as a citizen of the planet. Where and how are we going to go in the next few decades from a space travel standpoint.
We lay it all out - in this simple yet inspiring conversation with Jatan Mehta.
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Jatan’s Blog - https://blog.jatan.space
Why we explore the moon -https://blog.jatan.space/p/why-explore-the-moon
How are lunar mountains different from earth mountains- https://science.thewire.in/the-sciences/lunar-mountains-craters-landing-sites-solar-system/
The story of water being found on moon- https://blog.jatan.space/p/ultimate-guide-to-water-on-the-moon
Lumps in the moon’s gravitational field-https://blog.jatan.space/p/the-moons-lumpy-gravity-field
Tool to explore the PSRs- https://quickmap.lroc.asu.edu/query?extent=-21.6741319%2C-48.3039112%2C-3.1485562%2C-38.9146241&id=lroc&highlightFeatureId=0&showTerrain=true&queryFeature=1&queryOpts=N4IgLghgRiBcIBMKRAXyA&layers=NrBsFYBoAZIRnpEBmZcAsjYIHYFcAbAyAbwF8BdC0yioA&proj=10
Lunar South Pole atlas-https://www.lpi.usra.edu/lunar/lunar-south-pole-atlas/#illustrations
Nasa spinoff-https://spinoff.nasa.gov
About episode cover: (Moon rendered in green)
Topography of Earth's moon generated from data collected by the Lunar Orbiter Laser Altimeter, aboard NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, with the gravity anomalies bordering the Procellarum region superimposed in blue. The border structures are shown using gravity gradients calculated with data from NASA's Gravity Recovery and Interior Laboratory (GRAIL) mission. These gravity anomalies are interpreted as ancient lava-flooded rift zones buried beneath the volcanic plains (or maria) on the nearside of the Moon.
Gravity Gradients Frame Oceanus Procellarum
Photojournal: PIA18822
Image Credit: NASA/Colorado School of Mines/MIT/GSFC/Scientific Visualization Studio
Published: July 9, 2018
https://moon.nasa.gov/resources/267/gravity-gradients-frame-oceanus-procellarum/
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Sides to human-elephant conflict in Karnataka
Human-elephant conflict often grabs attention due to the destruction it causes, with media coverage highlighting the immediate losses for both people and elephants. However, the real story is far more complex. Beyond the headlines, what does life in a conflict zone look like for both elephants and the communities living alongside them?
Wildlife conservationist Vinod Krishnan, currently with Humane Society International India, has spent over 13 years studying human-elephant conflict in Karnataka. In this episode, he shares his first-hand experiences, offering a nuanced understanding of the many sides of this conflict. We explore the daily realities faced by both humans and elephants, the resource limitations of the forest department, and the often-overlooked role of media in shaping public perception.
Whether you're interested in wildlife conservation or how design can address complex, real-world challenges, this episode provides valuable insights into the multifaceted nature of human-wildlife interaction.
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Guests: Vinod Krishnan
Host: Dinesh Kumar C
Editor: Abhinav Suresh
Cover Art: Akshay Joshi
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