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Increments - #58 - Ask Us Anything V: How to Read and What to Read

#58 - Ask Us Anything V: How to Read and What to Read

11/29/23 • 100 min

Increments

Alright people, we made it. Six months, a few breaks, some uncontrollable laughter, some philosophy, many unhinged takes, a little bit of diarrhea and we're here, the last Ask Us Anything. After this we're never answering another God D*** question. Ever.

We discuss

  • Do you wish you could change your own interests?
  • Methods of information ingestion
  • Taking books off their pedestal bit
  • Intellectual influences
  • Veganism (why Ben is, why Vaden isn't)
  • Anti-rational memes
  • Fricken Andrew Huberman again
  • Stoicism
  • Are e-fuels the best of the best or the worst of the worst?

Questions

  1. (Andrew) Any suggested methods of reading Popper (or others) and getting the most out of it? I'm not from a philosophy background, and although I get a lot out of the books, I think there's probably ways of reading them (notes etc?) where I could invest the same time and get more return.
  2. (Andrew) Any other books you'd say added to your personal philosophical development as DD, KP have? Who and why?
  3. (Alex) Are you aware of general types of insidious anti-rational memes which are hard to recognise as such? Any ideas on how we can go about recognising them in our own thinking? (I do realise that perhaps no general method exists, but still, if you have any thoughts on this...)
  4. (Lorcan) What do you think about efuels? Listen to this take by Fully Charged.

References

People

Producers of rational memes:

  • Everything: Christopher Hitchens, Vladimir Nabokov, Sam Harris, George Orwell, Scott Alexander, Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Steven Pinker
  • Sex and Relationships: Dan Savage
  • Environment/Progress: Vaclav Smil, Matt Ridley, Steven Pinker, Hans Rosling, Bjorn Lomborg, Michael Shellenburger, Alex Epstein
  • Race: Glenn Loury, John Mcwhorter, Coleman Hughes, Kmele Foster, Chloe Valdery
  • Woke: John Mcwhorter, Yasha Mounk, Coleman Hughes, Sam Harris, Douglas Murrey, Jordan Peterson, Steven Hicks, James Lindsay, Ben Shapiro
  • Feminism: Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Christina Hoff Summers, Camille Paglia (Note: Then follow each thinker's favorite thinker, and never stop. )

Producers of anti-rational memes:

  • Eric Weinstein
  • Bret Weinstein
  • Noam Chomsky (See A Potpourri Of Chomskyan Nonsense: https://lingbuzz.net/lingbuzz/001592/v6.pdf)
  • Glenn Greenwald
  • Reza Aslan
  • Medhi Hassan
  • Robin Diangelo
  • Ibraam x Kendi
  • George Galloway
  • Judith Butler

Socials

  • Follow us on Twitter at @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani
  • Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link
  • Help us fund the anti-book campaign and get exclusive bonus content by becoming a patreon subscriber here. Or give us one-time cash donations to help therapy costs here.
  • Click dem like buttons on
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Alright people, we made it. Six months, a few breaks, some uncontrollable laughter, some philosophy, many unhinged takes, a little bit of diarrhea and we're here, the last Ask Us Anything. After this we're never answering another God D*** question. Ever.

We discuss

  • Do you wish you could change your own interests?
  • Methods of information ingestion
  • Taking books off their pedestal bit
  • Intellectual influences
  • Veganism (why Ben is, why Vaden isn't)
  • Anti-rational memes
  • Fricken Andrew Huberman again
  • Stoicism
  • Are e-fuels the best of the best or the worst of the worst?

Questions

  1. (Andrew) Any suggested methods of reading Popper (or others) and getting the most out of it? I'm not from a philosophy background, and although I get a lot out of the books, I think there's probably ways of reading them (notes etc?) where I could invest the same time and get more return.
  2. (Andrew) Any other books you'd say added to your personal philosophical development as DD, KP have? Who and why?
  3. (Alex) Are you aware of general types of insidious anti-rational memes which are hard to recognise as such? Any ideas on how we can go about recognising them in our own thinking? (I do realise that perhaps no general method exists, but still, if you have any thoughts on this...)
  4. (Lorcan) What do you think about efuels? Listen to this take by Fully Charged.

References

People

Producers of rational memes:

  • Everything: Christopher Hitchens, Vladimir Nabokov, Sam Harris, George Orwell, Scott Alexander, Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Steven Pinker
  • Sex and Relationships: Dan Savage
  • Environment/Progress: Vaclav Smil, Matt Ridley, Steven Pinker, Hans Rosling, Bjorn Lomborg, Michael Shellenburger, Alex Epstein
  • Race: Glenn Loury, John Mcwhorter, Coleman Hughes, Kmele Foster, Chloe Valdery
  • Woke: John Mcwhorter, Yasha Mounk, Coleman Hughes, Sam Harris, Douglas Murrey, Jordan Peterson, Steven Hicks, James Lindsay, Ben Shapiro
  • Feminism: Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Christina Hoff Summers, Camille Paglia (Note: Then follow each thinker's favorite thinker, and never stop. )

Producers of anti-rational memes:

  • Eric Weinstein
  • Bret Weinstein
  • Noam Chomsky (See A Potpourri Of Chomskyan Nonsense: https://lingbuzz.net/lingbuzz/001592/v6.pdf)
  • Glenn Greenwald
  • Reza Aslan
  • Medhi Hassan
  • Robin Diangelo
  • Ibraam x Kendi
  • George Galloway
  • Judith Butler

Socials

  • Follow us on Twitter at @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani
  • Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link
  • Help us fund the anti-book campaign and get exclusive bonus content by becoming a patreon subscriber here. Or give us one-time cash donations to help therapy costs here.
  • Click dem like buttons on

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undefined - #57 (Bonus) - A calm and soothing discussion of The Patriarchy

#57 (Bonus) - A calm and soothing discussion of The Patriarchy

We we're looking for a nice light topic for our patron only episode, so Vaden naturally chosen to chat about the patriarchy. I guess he didn't get into enough trouble in his personal life talking about it so he wanted to make his support and admiration for the patriarchy public.

This is a sneak preview into the land of patreon bonus episodes, so be sure to fork over some cold hard cash if you'd like a bit more mansplaining in your life.

We discuss

  • Harassment of women in various spheres of life
  • The patriarchy as a set of facts versus a causal explanation
  • Why conflating these two notions of the patriarchy harms progress
  • Domains where women are doing better than men (hint: education, mental health, and psychopathy)
  • Why it's so hard to talk about this
  • Why Canada is different than Afghanistan (OR IS IT)

Socials

  • Follow us on Twitter at @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani
  • Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link
  • Help us pay for men's rights posters and get exclusive bonus content by becoming a patreon subscriber here. Or give us one-time cash donations to help with upholding the patriarchy here.
  • Click dem like buttons on youtube over hur.

Who is a better meninist? Tell us at [email protected]

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undefined - #59 (C&R, Chap 8) - On the Status of Science and Metaphysics (Plus reflections on the Brett Hall blog exchange)

#59 (C&R, Chap 8) - On the Status of Science and Metaphysics (Plus reflections on the Brett Hall blog exchange)

Back to the C&R series baby! Feels goooooood. Need some bar-room explanations for why induction is impossible? We gotchu. Need some historical background on where your boy Isaac got his ideas? We gotchu. Need to know how to refute the irrefutable? Gotchu there too homie, because today we're diving into Conjectures and Refutations, Chapter 8: On the Status of Science and Metaphysics.

Oh, and we also discuss, in admittedly frustrated tones, the failed blog exchange between Brett Hall and Vaden on prediction and Austrianism. If you want the full listening experience, we suggest reading both posts before hearing our kvetching:

Hold on to your hats for this one listeners, because she starts off rather spicy.

We discuss

  • Why Kant believed in the truth of Newtonian mechanics
  • Newton and his assertion that he arrived at his theory via induction
  • Why this isn't true and is logically impossible
  • Was Copernicus influenced by Platonic ideals?
  • How Kepler came up with the idea of elliptical orbits
  • Why finite observations are always compatible with infinitely many theories
  • Kant's paradox and his solution
  • Popper's updated solution to Kant's paradox
  • The irrefutability of philosophical theories
  • How can we say that irrefutable theories are false?
  • Annnnnd perhaps a few cheap shots here and there about Austrian Economics as well. # References
  • Some background history on Copernicus and why Ben thinks Popper is wrong

Quotes

Listening to this statement you may well wonder how I can possibly hold a theory to be false and irrefutable at one and the same time—I who claim to be a rationalist. For how can a rationalist say of a theory that it is false and irrefutable? Is he not bound, as a rationalist, to refute a theory before he asserts that it is false? And conversely, is he not bound to admit that if a theory is irrefutable, it is true?

Now if we look upon a theory as a proposed solution to a set of problems, then the theory immediately lends itself to critical discussion—even if it is non-empirical and irrefutable. For we can now ask questions such as, Does it solve the problem? Does it solve it better than other theories? Has it perhaps merely shifted the problem? Is the solution simple? Is it fruitful? Does it perhaps contradict other philosophical theories needed for solving other problems?

Because, as you [Kant] said, we are not passive receptors of sense data, but active organisms. Because we react to our environment not always merely instinctively, but sometimes con- sciously and freely. Because we can invent myths, stories, theories; because we have a thirst for explanation, an insatiable curiosity, a wish to know. Because we not only invent stories and theories, but try them out and see whether they work and how they work. Because by a great effort, by trying hard and making many mistakes, we may sometimes, if we are lucky, succeed in hitting upon a story, an explanation, which ‘saves the phenomena’; perhaps by making up a myth about ‘invisibles’, such as atoms or gravitational forces, which explain the visible. Because knowledge is an adventure of ideas. These ideas, it is true, are produced by us, and not by the world around us; they are not merely the traces of repeated sensations or stimuli or what not; here you were right. But we are more active and free than even you believed; for similar observations or similar environmental situations do not, as your theory implied, produce similar explanations in different men. Nor is the fact that we create our theories, and that we attempt to impose them upon the world, an explanation of their success, as you believed. For the overwhelming majority of our theories, of our freely invented ideas, are unsuccessful; they do not stand up to searching tests, and are discarded as falsified by experience. Only a very few of them succeed, for a time, in the competitive struggle for survival.
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C&R Chapter 2

Socials

  • Follow us on Twitter at @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani
  • Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link
  • Help us fund more hour-long blog posts and get exclusive bonus content by becoming a patreon subscriber here. Or give us one-time cash donations to help cover anger management here.
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