
#24 - Popper's Three Worlds
05/11/21 • 73 min
This episode begins with a big announcement! Ben has officially become a cat person, and is now Taking Cats Seriously. Vaden follows up with some news of his own, before diving into the main subject for today's episode - Popper's Three Worlds.
In this episode we discuss:
- The TCS parenting movement
- Chesto's tweet to Deutsch
- How Popper's Three Worlds differs from Deutsch's Things/Qualia/Abstractions classification
- Would prime numbers exist if humans didn't exist?
- What constitutes reality?
- The existence of non-physical entities and the reality of abstractions
Having a quick glance at the following wikipedia pages will help ground the conversation:
Errata:
- Somewhere Vaden says English is a formal language. Nope definitely not - English is natural language, which is distinct from a formal language.
Send us your best guess for whether or not we're real at [email protected].
This episode begins with a big announcement! Ben has officially become a cat person, and is now Taking Cats Seriously. Vaden follows up with some news of his own, before diving into the main subject for today's episode - Popper's Three Worlds.
In this episode we discuss:
- The TCS parenting movement
- Chesto's tweet to Deutsch
- How Popper's Three Worlds differs from Deutsch's Things/Qualia/Abstractions classification
- Would prime numbers exist if humans didn't exist?
- What constitutes reality?
- The existence of non-physical entities and the reality of abstractions
Having a quick glance at the following wikipedia pages will help ground the conversation:
Errata:
- Somewhere Vaden says English is a formal language. Nope definitely not - English is natural language, which is distinct from a formal language.
Send us your best guess for whether or not we're real at [email protected].
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#23 - Physics, Philosophy, and Free Will with Sam Kuypers
We are joined by the great Sam Kuypers for a conversation on physics, philosophy, and free will.
Vaden spends most of the episode preparing for a huge debate on free-will, and Ben spends it worried about what alternate versions of himself are up to in parallel universes. Still, we manage to touch on a few topics:
- Realism and antirealist interpretations of quantum theory
- The advisory styles of Dennis Sciama and John Wheeler and the standardization of education
- Reconciling the Harris / Deutsch perspectives on Free Will
- Restorative and Rehabilitative justice
- A universe in which Ben spontaneously explodes into dust while speaking
Links:
- Sam's recent paper with David Deutsch
- From Micro to Macro, by Vlatko Vedral
- Hayek's Constitution of Liberty
Sam Kuypers is a DPhil student at the University of Oxford, where he researches foundational issues in quantum theory. He's also one of the founders of the Oxford Karl Popper Society, an Oxford-based student society created to facilitate discussions about science and philosophy.
Follow him on Twitter at: https://twitter.com/crit_rat.
Send us an email or explode into dust - your choice: [email protected].
Special Guest: Sam Kuypers.
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#25 - Mathematical Explanation with Mark Colyvan
We often talk of explanation in the context of empirical sciences, but what about explanation in logic and mathematics? Is there such a thing? If so, what does it look like and what are the consequences? In this episode we sit down with professor of philosophy Mark Colyvan and explore
- How mathematical explanation differs from explanation in the natural sciences
- Counterfactual reasoning in mathematics
- Intra versus extra mathematical explanation
- Alternate logics
- Mathematical thought experiments
- The use of probability in the courtroom
References:
- The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Mathematics in the Natural Sciences by Eugene Wigner.
- Proofs and Refutations by Imre Lakatos.
Mark Colyvan is a professor of philosophy at the University of Sydney, and a visiting professor (and, previously, Humboldt fellow) at Ludwig-Maximilians University in Munich. He has a wide array of research interests, including the philosophy of mathematics, philosophy of logic, decision theory, environmental philosophy, and ecology. He has authored three books: The Indispensability of Mathematics (Oxford University Press, 2001), Ecological Orbits: How Planets Move and Populations Grow (Oxford University Press, 2004, co-authored with Lev Ginzburg), and An Introduction to the Philosophy of Mathematics (Cambridge University Press, 2012).
Special Guest: Mark Colyvan.
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