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I'M THE VILLAIN

I'M THE VILLAIN

Isabel Knight & Deondre' Jones

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Welcome to I'M THE VILLAIN, a podcast about 2 millennials trying to decode, deconstruct, and dismantle the world as we know it. The show is a conversational podcast where we talk about all the things that are fucked up about the status quo in America, with the perspective of the villain (Isabel) and hero (Deondre'). We talk about norms we think need to change in society, and talk with other millennials about how to change those norms, including our obsession with work, the culture of quantifying everything we do, social media, the way we treat relationships, and more. Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/im-the-villain/support
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There's a lot of episodes we've had about major life pivots: Andy Reinhold (Episode 78) talked about how he started in consulting, quit his job to follow his passion and work in gaming, and then went back to consulting to support his baby. Sara Alepin (Episode 123) wanted to be a teacher, but after a student stomped on her foot and left her permanently unable to walk more than a few hours a day without pain, she pivoted to being a wedding photographer, podcaster, and running a businesses community. Ayana Major Bey (Episode 134) wanted to be an actor in plays and then a global pandemic hit.
Aaron Matis' story is a bit of a meld between Sara and Ayana's stories: he dreamed of being an actor, and at 26, he was cast in a show on Nickolodeon. He had succeeded in almost everything on his 5-year plan: "I was peaking in every measurable way." Then, one fateful day, he was walking down a hill with a cooler and fell and tore his meniscus. This one fall changed the course of his life forever. 3 surgeries later, and his doctors say he will likely never run again. He moved back home to Scranton from LA and is starting on his next 5-year plan: one that doesn't involve acting.
He tells us about the sheer amount of self-hatred that came after his surgery, and how it was so difficult to accept help from those supporting him: "I so much hated myself that I started to resent people that loved me because I thought there must be something wrong with them." He thinks of his former self as a completely different person, and in therapy, he has managed to go through the process of grieving that former self and that former vision he had of what his life was going to look like.
But he also talks about the process of rediscovering joy and trying to find happiness in simply being around the people he loves, and not worrying so much about what physical activity they may be doing. He talks about being able to empathize in a new way with his sister, who has a rare condition that causes debilitating bouts of pain, and has found a community in online groups for people who suffer from chronic pain.
"I'm not the happiest that I have ever been...but I am getting there."
Links:

PALS Programs, a camp for kids with Down Syndrome that Aaron has worked with and loves: https://www.palsprograms.org/
Deondre's new show, 3Disc Changer, a podcast where three friends take a deep dive into an iconic album each episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/3-disc-changer/id1644161173

Music is The Beauty of Maths by Meydän.

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I'M THE VILLAIN - 148. The Climate Episode: The 4 Horsemen Are Here
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04/27/23 • 75 min

Martin Froger-Silva woke up one day in fall of 2017 to find his Berkeley home surrounded by smoke: it looked like a scene from Blade Runner 2049. He looked outside and the entire sky was red, like he had been transported to the surface of Mars. For weeks on end, due to the California forest fires, Berkeley was in the "purple zone," which is considered the worst zone to be in on the air quality scale, with particulate matter above 300 ppm, or parts per million (if you're interested, you can check out your local air quality here). California was wearing N95 masks long before Covid happened because of these fires. At one point, Martin's partner looked at him and said, "We are breathing in dead people."

This was a major wake-up call for Martin, who had been working in immigration at the time: it made him realize he needed to go into working in climate change. He went on to get a graduate degree from Scripps in Environmental Science, and learned a lot about things like how the weather works. We asked him what some of his main recommendations are around what the average person can do about the climate, and his main piece of advice: get involved in local politics to see what climate policies are being considered in your state, and educate yourself on what is most effective. In the climate space, there is a decreasing emphasis on individual accountability as it relates to climate change, and a greater focus on how we can influence companies, whose emissions far outweigh the emissions of individuals in the US. We're starting to realize that this problem can only be solved with serious legislation, as opposed to hoping that our individual consumer actions will save us. One main focus for Martin is public transportation, but there are so many more climate-related areas for the average citizen to focus on.

Links:

Martin's website: https://www.martinfroger.com/

"The 6th Extinction," by Elizabeth Kolbert: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250062185/thesixthextinction

"This Changes Everything," by Naomi Klein: https://thischangeseverything.org/book/

"All We Can Save," an anthology of pieces by 60 women authors about the climate crisis, edited by Ayana Elizabeth Johnson and Katherine K. Wilkerson: https://www.allwecansave.earth/anthology

Music is The Beauty of Maths by Meydän.

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This is a continuation of the previous episode from last week, and in this part of the conversation we UNPACK some SHIT. We talk about what happens when you are happily in an undefined relationship, and then eventually society comes along and peers in the window and asks you WHAT YOU ARE. This has been a particular frustration for Isabel recently, and so a lot of this episode is shooting the shit about our relationships and what is important about them to us. We also continue talking about the importance of the middle tier friend, which is a friend who is not your best or closest friend, but someone who is just a solid friend that you can talk with regularly and there's never any drama because the stakes aren't too high with middle tier friends.
Music is The Beauty of Maths by Meydän.

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I'M THE VILLAIN - 69. The Power Episode: Is Power Zero-Sum?
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11/26/20 • 57 min

We have been doing a lot of introspection during this podcast, and this particular episode is the culmination of a lot of the conversations we have been having recently about racial justice and the general power dynamics at play in American society. We invite our friend Ronald Young Jr. back on the show to have a conversation about whether power is zero sum, Black Panther and whether Michael B. Jordan did a good job as Killmonger, and the general axis of change with the Martin Luther King Jr. nonviolent approach on one side and the Malcolm X violent revolution approach on the other.
This last topic has obviously been a topic of discussion for decades so we don't claim to come down on where on this axis we ought to be in this episode, the closest we probably get is that mainstream society has really picked a side (the MLK side) and in reality, the answer is probably more ambiguous than mainstream education would make it seem. While we broadly agree that incrementalism is a better approach than violent revolution, we talk about how one of the most important questions of our current historical moment is deciding what strategies progressives should be employing, given that it can be so demoralizing to be on the side where "when they go low, we go high" always seems to be the least effective way out.
Links:
Chadwick Boseman video talking about the 2 little kids with cancer who inspired while making Black Panther: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J-D86wfxiE&ab_channel=SiriusXM
Ronald's podcast Time Well Spent: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/time-well-spent/id1191403830
Ronald's podcast Leaving the Theater: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/leaving-the-theater/id1481268414
Music is The Beauty of Maths by Meydän.

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I'M THE VILLAIN - 1. How to be a Villain

1. How to be a Villain

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05/29/19 • 29 min

The show is a conversational podcast where we talk about all the things that are fucked up about the status quo in America, with the perspective of the villain (Isabel) and hero (Meronne). In our first episode, we talk about the hero-villain complex, what making an impact means when you were brainwashed to have a very narrow definition of "doing good" in college, and why the world we are moving towards is going to be increasingly built by teams instead of gloried individuals, whether heroes or villains.

Note: A loyal listener of the podcast, Josh Palay, pointed out to Isabel that the story about Mozart and Salieri is, in fact, not true at all: according to Wikipedia, "However, even with Mozart and Salieri's rivalry for certain jobs, there is virtually no evidence that the relationship between the two composers was at all acrimonious beyond this, especially after around 1785, when Mozart had become established in Vienna. Rather, they appeared to usually see each other as friends and colleagues, and supported each other's work." Nevertheless, Isabel feels that the value of the story as it stands to highlight the false dichotomy of success which is still so commonly peddled by our universities, the Olympics, the Nobel Prize Committee, and so many other institutions, still holds water.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Salieri

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Not only do you get to stay with your lover, you also get to have sex and romantic relationships with other people! Including your ex! In the last episode of this season, we talk about how restrictive the classic script on romance is and why we think breaking down those rigid barriers actually can create an even more stable and communicative relationship. In short, there's no one way your relationship has to be for it to be valid and healthy.

This episode has been a long time coming because it's the main way in which both co-hosts really go against the societal grain in true villain fashion. Even among millennials, rates of non-monogamy are below 10%, despite the fact that we are the most open to non-monogamy than any previous generation in American history. Overall, about 1 in 5 people report having been in a non-monogamous relationships at some point in their lives based on the US Census. So tune in if you want to hear how the other fifth lives!

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Alain de Boton's video "On Romanticism": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPOuIyEJnbE&t=2s

Bell Hooks' book "All About Love": https://www.harpercollins.com/9780060959470/all-about-love/

PDF Version of "All About Love": https://www.docdroid.net/goTB7E8/124493278-bell-hooks-all-about-love.pdf

A very cute, very long Wait But Why illustrated explainer on the issues with the traditional marriage script: https://waitbutwhy.com/2016/09/marriage-decision.html

Study showing rates of non-monogamy and openness to non-monogamy by generation: https://ifstudies.org/blog/national-survey-reveals-generational-differences-in-consensual-nonmonogamy-

1 in 5 people have been in non-monogamous relationships: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-polyamorists-next-door/201905/updated-estimate-number-non-monogamous-people-in-us

The song this episode title is referencing (50 Ways to Leave Your Lover): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABXtWqmArUU

Music is The Beauty of Maths by Meydän.

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I'M THE VILLAIN - 112. The Elon Musk Episode: Time Person of the Year
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01/12/22 • 47 min

In 2021, Elon Musk was named the Time Person of the Year. A contentious choice, given the events of this past year, and maybe that was the point. After all, print magazines are rapidly going out of business and vying to stay relevant and this is pretty much the only time of year you see headlines about TIME in the rest of the mainstream media. So maybe they chose someone intentionally controversial to stir up chatter, but regardless, we use this episode to talk about whether the pick was merited, given that Elon has been breaking ground: he has now definitively put electric vehicles on the map, despite Tesla's dubious labor practices, and he can move the markets with one Tweet (though maybe not always in the direction he wants them to go). We will have yet to see if he manages to put humans on Mars, but if he does succeed, it will undoubtedly be historic.
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Wikipedia Page on the Time Person of the Year: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Person_of_the_Year
Time article on Elon Musk as the Time Person of the Year: https://time.com/person-of-the-year-2021-elon-musk/
Wait But Why Article on Elon Musk: https://waitbutwhy.com/2015/05/elon-musk-the-worlds-raddest-man.html
Wikipedia page for the Long Tailpipe Theory of Electric Vehicles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_long_tailpipe#:~:text=The%20long%20tailpipe%20is%20an,those%20from%20non%2Delectric%20vehicles.
Our World in Data Chart of Emissions by Sector: https://ourworldindata.org/emissions-by-sector
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On this show we talk a lot about problems that need to be solved and not a lot about how to solve them, which is a criticism my mom brought up to me recently. So in this solo episode, Deondre' and I talk about some of the problems we have talked about on the show and whether the counterculture is overcorrecting for them. For example, cancel culture is trying to solve the problem of harmful rhetoric, like when people are publicly racist, misogynist, ableist, homophobic, etc. But then you quickly run into this problem: you can't shame the shameless. It's hard to cancel people like Trump or Tucker Carlson because they just don't care. And in fact your attempts may garner them even more publicity. But you CAN shame the people standing right next to you on the political spectrum, because they are more likely to actually care what you think. On the flip side, let's take the example of racism. In America, it is no longer kosher to make explicitly racist laws like banning someone from coming in your restaurant based on their skin color. But because the racism has to be sneakier, like in Georgia's recently passed voter suppression law that makes it illegal to hand people water in line, perhaps that makes the racist outcomes that much harder to fight because you have to jump through a number of logical hoops to get to the racist part. Links: Explainer on the Lindsay Ellis controversy: https://www.distractify.com/p/why-is-lindsay-ellis-canceled#:~:text=Lindsay%20Ellis'%20%22cancellation%22%20started,series%20Avatar%3A%20The%20Last%20Airbender.&text=Critics%20of%20Lindsay%20also%20pointed,descent%20on%20its%20writing%20team. Tiffany Haddish's book, "The Last Black Unicorn": https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-last-black-unicorn-tiffany-haddish/1126243717 Skateboarding documentary, "Minding the Gap": https://www.hulu.com/movie/minding-the-gap-efcd9be9-9541-46b4-abbc-dd8b0606b304?&cmp=10051&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=CM_SEM_Minding+the+Gap&utm_term=minding%20the%20gap%20documentary&gclid=CjwKCAjw-e2EBhAhEiwAJI5jg3O-cy_YAHWTHyxqJDqOZMy5ONfFAr8IzKe-NCdiN930RILRAf4rYRoCPX0QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds Music is The Beauty of Maths by Meydän. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/im-the-villain/support
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It's difficult at any time to figure out what you truly believe, and who to trust, and what information sounds reputable. Right now, as much of America sits at home on our computers waiting to hear from the front lines in this invisible war against COVID-19 we have going on, we are going through an especially confusing period, where it feels like there is conflicting information everywhere, and this is about a very specific problem with an associated set of verifiable facts. But what about the questions where there is no obvious answer, questions of purpose, how to treat people, who to love? What happens when some of the answers you were given as a kid by your parents or grandparents directly contradict the answers you were given by your teachers, like whether dinosaurs exist or the Big Bang happened? What does it mean to question at all?

In this episode we sit down with Keith Chaney of the Saved(ish) podcast about his experience as a black, progressive, Christian millennial and the messiness of trying to come to some kind of understanding of the world when there are so many contradictions present, or more accurately, the process of coming to the understanding that there are a lot of questions you might just not know the answer to and you never will.

Music is The Beauty of Maths by Meydän.

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In their previous job, B. Pagels-Minor had a senior female leader tell them they wouldn't go far in their industry because they were nonbinary despite also using them as a symbol of diversity for their company. B. is here to tell you that does not fly. (Also, we will note, that lady was wrong: B. is thriving.)

In this episode, we talk to B. Pagels-Minor, who is a Black, nonbinary product manager based out of Silicon Valley who also serves on the board of Howard Brown Health, a nonprofit health organization serving the LGBTQ+ community. They are also planning to have a baby soon, so we touch on SO many topics for this episode, from why nonprofits are so important and how strict their mentality should be around hiring effective workers compared to for-profit companies, how not to have your kid turn out to be an asshole, the problems nonbinary folks encounter with healthcare providers, their experience with coming out to their Southern black parents, you name it. Many of the themes in this episode tie back in with topics that have been on our minds recently, from diversity in hiring, to navigating class to activism. This is one of the most far-ranging conversations we have had in a while. If you liked our entrepreneurship episode, where we basically talk about everything under the sun, you're going to like this episode too.
Links:
B. Pagels-Minor's website: https://www.bpagelsminor.com/

B. Pagels-Minor's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bpagelsminor/?hl=en

Howard Brown Health: https://howardbrown.org/
Music is The Beauty of Maths by Meydän.

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I'M THE VILLAIN currently has 159 episodes available.

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The podcast is about Podcasts and Society & Culture.

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The episode title '141. The Pivot Episode: Grieving the Alternate Paths You Life Could Have Taken' is the most popular.

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The average episode length on I'M THE VILLAIN is 49 minutes.

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Episodes of I'M THE VILLAIN are typically released every 7 days, 7 hours.

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