I Couldn’t Throw It Out

Michael Small

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Revisit pop culture history as former People Magazine reporter Michael Small and guests share the treasures they've saved for decades, including never-heard celebrity interviews, rare memorabilia, and maybe a little junk. Co-host Sally Libby helps decide if they should keep or toss their stuff. Will it be an epic case of Swedish Death Cleaning? Or an epic fail?

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Why Do We Save Things? Can We Throw Them Out?

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05/28/22 • 25 min

In the first episode of our podcast, my co-host Sally Libby and I try to figure out why I -- and others -- feel the urge to save things.
And then, sob, she makes me use the shredder.
I know Sally's right. For decades, I've saved mementoes from when I was a reporter for People Magazine -- including hundreds of celebrity interview recordings. I also have more than 60 interviews with the original stars of hip-hop for my 1991 book Break It Down The Inside Story from the New Leaders of Rap. Then there are the personal items: cards and letters I've saved since I was 6, expense accounts, a play I wrote in fifth grade, and other treasures that now fill 24 boxes.
But when I'm gone, someone will throw all of it in a dumpster. So here's my goal: Tell the stories behind the items I've saved so at least the memories are preserved. Then attempt to do some Swedish Death Cleaning. That's the process of throwing out your stuff now so someone doesn't have to deal with it when you're gone.
And I'll invite guests to join us on the podcast to do the same.
Can't guarantee that we'll succeed at throwing things out. But either way I hope I'll inspire you to look through your own treasures. Then share a story with a friend or family member about what you've saved, why you saved it, and what you plan to do with it. Or send us a photo and description to us. We'll post our favorites in our blog.
In the meantime, we hope you enjoy the podcast!

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High School Poet: Donna Murphy Gets Literary

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09/03/22 • 50 min

Broadway? Movies? TV? That's nuthin'. Stage and screen actress Donna Murphy first found fame on the high school literary magazine staff with Michael and Sally. Listen in as they read poems by Donna and others 50 years later -- and get a big surprise.

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Scary! Stephen King and Peter Straub's lost interview

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07/06/24 • 73 min

When I interviewed Stephen King and Peter Straub in 1984 about their fantasy novel The Talisman, their book was breaking records for hardcover sales. But the fame of their collaboration has faded over the years.
Most people recognize King's famous titles -- Carrie, The Shining, The Dead Zone, It, Pet Sematary. And they may be familiar with Straub's 1979 bestseller Ghost Story. But far fewer know about The Talisman.
That's why Sally and I asked renowned horror and fantasy expert Bev Vincent to help us evaluate the never-shared audio tape and notes I've saved for 40 years since I met King and Straub, helping us decide what I should save or toss.
Along the way, we were reminded of King and Straub's strong bond of friendship before Straub's death in 2022 (from complications after an accident). We also learned about the classic poets that they both loved, and we relived the fun time I had with them, as they told bloody stories over breakfast at McDonald's.
Among the insights from Bev Vincent: He discussed the chances of a TV series based on the Talisman by the Duffer Brothers ("Stranger Things") and he shared King's latest thoughts about following the 2001 Talisman sequel Black House with a third book in the series.
Is it time for you to read, or re-read, The Talisman? Listen and find out.
King/Straub photo by Jordan M. Hahn

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Joni Mitchell: 1985 Interview - Her Wonderful Tales

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05/30/22 • 54 min

When I interviewed Joni Mitchell for People Magazine in 1985, some of her best tales were the longer ones. Hear a few of them, including how she met Jimi Hendrix, why Jack Nicholson missed his cameo in her song, and a recitation of her 7th grade poem. No way will I ever toss this tape. (Part 2 of 2)

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Swedish Death Cleaning: Meet the World's Experts

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01/27/24 • 52 min

Welcome to the invasion of the most entertaining people in Sweden -- who want all of us earthlings to start thinking about... death. Yup, it sounds kooky. But, in this episode, we have a blast absorbing the wit and wisdom of three experts on Swedish Death Cleaning.
In case you wonder what that means, these Swedes are the hosts of the Peacock TV series The Gentle Art of Swedish Death Cleaning (produced and narrated by Amy Poehler). They're the ultimate experts on a philosophy of reducing your possessions in a way that's much more profound than a decluttering with Marie Kondo.
Dialing in from Sweden, psychologist Katarina Blom, professional organizer Ella Engstrom, and designer Johan Svenson help us evaluate a sampling of stuff I've saved for decades, including treasures related to Andy Warhol, Billy Idol, and Joni Mitchell from my years as a People Magazine reporter. So now it's time to let it all go. Okay, maybe some of it...
Along the way, these Swedes showed us how to laugh about death. But they also caught me off guard with a revelation so powerful that... I kind of lost it.
Would a little Swedish Death Cleaning do wonders for you too? Listen and find out.

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Perfect Match, Part 1: A Kidney Transplant Tale

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11/26/22 • 57 min

At 20, my wife Cindy thought she was about to die. Following a lupus diagnosis at 15, her kidneys had shut down in a way that seemed fatal. But after devastating years on dialysis, many near-death experiences, and three kidney transplants, Cindy is going strong 46 years later. Her optimism and determination to survive, and the joy she got from painting and creating art, kept her going through each crushing health challenge.
Reminded by cards and letters we saved, Cindy and I share in this episode -- for the first time -- the entire rollercoaster tale of our intertwined lives (including my own highly flawed behavior) after we met as college freshmen.
This is part 1 of 2. Coming up in the second part: Just when it seemed that Cindy's health would improve, the most dramatic life-threatening challenges began. And then... we discovered a error that lasted 33 years. This was the start of a sort of miracle. Hear Part 2 wherever you get your podcasts, or listen here.

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Ice-T: Never-heard 1991 interview

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08/30/24 • 68 min

Hear the rapper and actor talk about crime, Hollywood, racism, and more -- before he was a Law & Order SVU detective and just after he created the metal band Body Count
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In 1991, Ice-T had just appeared in the movie New Jack City -- and his rap albums were defining what was then an unusual style of west coast gangsta rap.
That’s why I chose him as one of the top five rappers to lead off my book about hip-hop, Break It Down: The Inside Story from the New Leaders of Rap.

Since then, I couldn’t throw out the tape of my interview – which lasted well over an hour. But I hadn’t shared it with anyone, until now.
As I listened again, I remembered that Ice-T (whose real name is Tracy Marrow) is one of the all-time most amazing talkers. There was almost nothing I wanted to cut. So here it is, the interview almost in its entirety.

For me, it was surprising to hear Ice-T’s 1991 thoughts on topics that are still relevant. His commentary on Donald Trump was different from what it would be now. But our discussion of Clarence Thomas could have happened yesterday. We also talked about education, racism, poverty, crime, the police, censorship, fatherhood, politics, the army, Hollywood, and – of course – the origin of gangsta rap.

So much happened in Ice-T's life after our talk. A year later, he caused a national controversy when his metal band Body Count released the song “Cop Killer.” The song was banned and became an election talking point for the first George Bush and his vice president Dan Quayle. Later, Ice-T appeared in dozens of TV shows and movies – with his most prominent credit being 25 years on Law & Order SVU.

Most of all, this flashback interview reminded me of the sharpness and openness of Ice-T’s mind. And his strength, which helped him bounce back from losing both parents as a child and ultimately allowed him to leave his rough street life in South-Central L.A.

If you want more about Ice-T's current life, you’ll find links to articles about his wife Coco, his three kids, his exhibit at Harvard, his online bonding with Stephen King, his support of vaccination, his bulldogs, his podcast, and more on the I Couldn't Throw It Out blog.

Ice-T Photo by Sven Mandel via Wikimedia Commons

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Gangsta rapper Eazy-E: Our Final Meeting [Explicit]

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11/05/22 • 50 min

Rap mogul Eazy-E's death from AIDS complications in 1995 was a shock. Hear reactions at the time from Wu-Tang's Method Man and others. Plus, hear my 1992 talk with Eazy while driving in Compton during the L.A. riots.

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The Funniest Movie You Never Saw

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02/23/24 • 49 min

Why should you watch Eli Wallach and Anne Jackson in 1967's long-lost-comic gem The Tiger Makes Out?
The surprise reason: After 50 years when you couldn't watch it anywhere, we just discovered that you can stream it for free.
But wait! That's just a start. Before you dive into this satire from another era – which can be a challenge – let us give you a prep session, with help from our special guest: Katherine Wallach, daughter of Eli and Anne.
Katherine shares the back story of The Tiger Makes Out, and her parents' wondrous performances in it. Then she talks about her family life, which included starring with her parents on Broadway, and a babysitter named Marilyn Monroe.
We also point you to the highlights of The Tiger Makes Out, including a cameo by Dustin Hoffman, an unhinged performance by Charles Nelson Reilly, and comic twists hiding in every single performance and every tiny detail of the set.
Now, after decades of frustration when I couldn't share my favorite movie, everyone can watch it -- including our special guest Walker Stevenson, a friend who has never agreed with me about any movie. Can I transform Walker into a fan ofThe Tiger Makes Out? Or will he talk me into tossing my treasures that relate to the movie? Um, don't bet on either of those.

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Joni Mitchell: Our Day Together in 1985

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06/03/22 • 67 min

In 1985, Joni Mitchell gave me a multi-hour interview for People Magazine about flunking high school, Woodstock, Bob Dylan, her Chelsea apartment, poetry, painting, and much more -- which you'll hear in this episode. Oh, c'mon. Do not ask me to toss those tapes. (Part 1 of 2.)

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Podcast Q&A

What do you hope listeners gain from listening to your show?

Almost everyone saves things, even if they don't realize it. I hope my podcast will remind listeners to look at what they've saved and enjoy the stories that these objects hold within them. Because I worked at People Magazine, some of my stories are about celebrities, and some are not. Either way, it's the memories -- not the actual objects -- that are so valuable. If we all share these stories, maybe we'll realize that we can toss the objects.

Which episode should someone start with?

There's no order to the episodes. If you look for a topic that interests you, that's the best place to start. One funny note: I thought the story behind my Jennifer Beals interview was so unimportant that I almost didn't include it. But so far, it's the most popular episode. It's also the most embarrassing, because it forced me to admit my stupid tactics for that interview.

Which have been your favourite episodes so far?

The episode with spy novelist Joseph Kanon was so much fun to record. Joe was my boss at my very first job, when I was his editorial assistant at a New York book publisher. In the episode, I had to admit to him all the secret -- and not entirely kosher -- things I did while he employed me. His reaction is priceless.

Which episode are you most proud of?

It's understandable that the interviews with celebrities draw a larger audience, but I'm most proud of the two episodes about the crazy coincidences that allowed me to donate a kidney to my wife. We had many laughs and remembered many nightmares related to her health. I'm really happy that we preserved these memories.

What is your vision for your show?

The goal is to expand and include more guests who share their stories about what they've saved. I also need to TRY to throw out everything I've saved for decades, or give it to someone else who'd value it. So far, not much progress with that. But there's always hope.

What is your favourite other podcast that isn't yours?

Rachel Maddow's Ultra is absolutely riveting. The tone is different from her show, and the history she relates --which I never knew -- is horrifying and enlightening.

Tell us a bit about yourself

I was a reporter for People Magazine for 15 years, then a manager at websites for Wired, Entertainment Weekly, Rolling Stone, MSNBC, NBC News and others. I'm also the author of the 1992 book, Break It Down, which includes interviews with more than 60 hip-hop stars. As a storyteller, I've performed many times in New York City's Tale show and my plays have been performed at New York City's International Fringe Festival and the Howl Festival.

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