
Bob Klaber on kindness as the essence of care (United Kingdom)
02/20/22 • 23 min
On the podcast is Bob Klaber.
Dr. Bob Klaber is a Consultant Paediatrician & Director of Strategy, Research & Innovation at Imperial College Healthcare NHS Trust. He has a strong interest in behavioral insights work and leadership development.
Bob is a true role model when it comes to kindness. In the episode, he explains the value of kindness in delivering outstanding care and cultivating kindness in our organizations to deliver better results. I promise you that he has some exciting experiences to share.
On kindness
- "Kindness is right at the heart of everything that is about care."
- "There is a lot of evidence that kindness in care leads to better outcomes."
On opportunities in healthcare
"Over the last 10-15 years, in England where I work, our healthcare system has been quite systematically unkind."
Show notes and some recommendations from Bob:
- Find Bob on Twitter: @bobklaber
- Twitter: Conversation for Kindness.
- Organizations: The Hush Foundation by Prof. Catherine Crock is hosting an annual conference called The Gathering of Kindness.
- UK consultancy called the Kaleidoscope.
- Person to follow: Leonard Berry’s research about kindness
- Book: Intelligent Kindness by John Ballat & Penelope Campling
- How to measure kindness: Take a look at this publication by Simon Andersson and Julie
- Brownlie called Getting the measure of kindness: A guide for organisations
On the podcast is Bob Klaber.
Dr. Bob Klaber is a Consultant Paediatrician & Director of Strategy, Research & Innovation at Imperial College Healthcare NHS Trust. He has a strong interest in behavioral insights work and leadership development.
Bob is a true role model when it comes to kindness. In the episode, he explains the value of kindness in delivering outstanding care and cultivating kindness in our organizations to deliver better results. I promise you that he has some exciting experiences to share.
On kindness
- "Kindness is right at the heart of everything that is about care."
- "There is a lot of evidence that kindness in care leads to better outcomes."
On opportunities in healthcare
"Over the last 10-15 years, in England where I work, our healthcare system has been quite systematically unkind."
Show notes and some recommendations from Bob:
- Find Bob on Twitter: @bobklaber
- Twitter: Conversation for Kindness.
- Organizations: The Hush Foundation by Prof. Catherine Crock is hosting an annual conference called The Gathering of Kindness.
- UK consultancy called the Kaleidoscope.
- Person to follow: Leonard Berry’s research about kindness
- Book: Intelligent Kindness by John Ballat & Penelope Campling
- How to measure kindness: Take a look at this publication by Simon Andersson and Julie
- Brownlie called Getting the measure of kindness: A guide for organisations
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On the podcast is Rosie Bartel.
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On Infection
"I don't think they realize how much one little infection can devastate a person forever."
On being a patient with an HAI
"It's much easier to sit in a chair and tell somebody about hand hygiene than to be laying under those white sheets where you don't have any control over your life."
"I can't blame anybody for it, but let's look at all the ways that could fix the world and make it better for patients and safer for patients every single day."
To purchase a copy of Rosie's book: Rosie's Story: A Story of Faith, Hope, and Survival:
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On the episode is Amina Al-Jardani and Amal Saif Al-Maani.
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On creating awareness.
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