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Lia James & Christopher Guest
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06/13/19 • 51 min
And we’re back! We’ve been behind the scenes producing more exciting interviews to share with you to dive into conversations about neurodiversities, learnings and best practices from folks who are making big changes with organizations to be more inclusive sexual harassment, and so.much.more! Each of the upcoming releases we are sharing new and different styles of recording from live recordings to video podcasts. We cannot wait to share all of these with you!
In this episode, we recorded a live panel discussion at Mile High Agile in Denver, Colorado on May 29th with panelists Mo Abdullah — CEO and Founder of Culture Energized, Natalie Bonifede — Global Director of Diversity and Inclusion at Pivotal Software, and Lauren Burgess — CEO and Founder of Garden, Inc and Dirt Coffee.
We kick off the discussion with an Energizer led by Mo. You won’t hear that in this recording, but to give you some insight into how we all jumped into the discussion, Mo had everyone stand up and enter the space in the center of the room. She led us through a few exercises to get our blood pumping where we walked around the room doing a little movement that she called the “peanut butter jelly” until she called out to “find a partner.” With our partners we high five’d and booty-bumped before kicking off mini discussions based on prompts she gave us about our awareness level and understandings of diversity and inclusion. Check out more from Culture Energized on how to partner with them to plan your next team retreat!
In this live recording of the panel, we dive into a few key topics to help our audience think through actionable steps they can apply within their teams.
Jump ahead if you’re looking for a specific part of the conversation:
9:00 - Introductions of panelists
20:05 - Culture fit vs. Culture Add
23:53 - Unconscious vs. Implicit Bias
27:37 - Changing the hiring process
31:27 - The different dimensions of diversity and team norms
33:10 - Team conflict with diversity
41:18 - Recommended resources
Additional resources:
- Project Aristotle - https://rework.withgoogle.com/print/guides/5721312655835136/
- Deloitte 6 traits of inclusive leadership - https://www2.deloitte.com/insights/us/en/topics/talent/six-signature-traits-of-inclusive-leadership.html
- Personal User Manual Exercise - https://www.atlassian.com/team-playbook/plays/my-user-manual
- Applied Behavior Analysis - https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapy-types/applied-behavior-analysis
- Personality Tests - Myers Briggs (https://www.myersbriggs.org/my-mbti-personality-type/mbti-basics/home.htm?bhcp=1) , DISC (https://www.discprofile.com/what-is-disc/overview/)
- Project Include - https://projectinclude.org/
- Inclusion Nudges Guidebook - http://inclusion-nudges.org/
More about our panelists:
Natalie Bonifede - Natalie is a Diversity & Inclusion leader with extensive experience working at the intersection of technology and social impact. Equal parts strategist, executor, and consultant, Natalie has consistently partnered with companies to drive meaningful and material change in early-stage startups, complex corporate environments, and pre/post IPO companies.
Mo Abdullah - Mariam (Mo) Abdullah is the Founder of Culture Energized and an experienced certified trainer and entrepreneur. Originally from Atlanta, Georgia, Mo has worked with over 60 schools and organizations across the U.S in improving positive culture through professional development trainings. With her electrifying facilitation style, she has been able to impact diverse groups of people while shining light on the issues that matter!
Lauren Burgess - Lauren Burgess is the fou...

Race, gender, and a two-year job search
Human Inclusive
03/07/19 • 45 min
“I’m not a junior, I’m not entry level. I’m a black woman in tech. I need these accolades to compete.” In this episode of Human Inclusive, Christopher Guest and Lia James explore the story of Dede Tetsubayashi, a senior Product Manager with a background in Computer Science and Anthropology who faced a two-year job search. With help from two experts, Dr. Tiffany Jana and Dr. Deborah Egerton, we dig into the barriers in Dede’s job search before she landed in her role at WeWork. We want to understand why she faced so many roadblocks during this time. What happened that caused her search to extend the span of most Silicon Valley techies’ tenure at any of the giant tech companies.
With the help of our guest experts we discuss intersectionality, gender, race and the impact of conscious as well as unconscious biases.
There have been several studies over the last century which show the stereotypes behind an assumed intelligence of blacks compared to whites. A report from 2018 by Dupree and Fiske eludes that unconscious bias and microaggressions build upon these low-competence stereotypes perpetuated by white groups.
Research by the Kapor Center shows that in Silicon Valley, men constitute 70% of the workforce, Asian and White women comprise a combined 26% of the professional workforce, while Black, Latinx, and Native American/Alaskan Native women each constitute 2% or less.
It goes further to say that among all women employed in computer and information science occupations, 56% are white women, 32% are Asian women, 7% are Black women and 5% are Latinx women.
While women currently make up roughly half of the overall workforce, they are just 35% of the technology workforce. Women of color currently constitute 18% of the overall population, but 39% of the female-identified population in the United States - and by 2060 women of color will comprise the majority.
For more information on our guests:
- Dr. Tiffany Jana
- Dr Jana’s Books: Overcoming Bias, Erasing Institutional Bias
- Dr. Deborah Egerton
- Dr. Dede Tetsubayashi, PhD
Editing & Post-Production by Dante32.

11/15/18 • 40 min
Christopher and Lia talk with Hope Giselle, Jasmine Lopez, and Andrea Mares as they explore topics that affect the trans community. Be sure to check out the continued conversation in Part 2 of this episode.
Follow these women on social media:
Hope Giselle: Instagram & Twitter - @HopeDisguised
Jasmine Lopez: Instagram: @fudgepop.in
Andrea Mares: Instagram & Twitter - @andrea7mares
Editing & Post-Production by Dante32

Season 1 trailer
Human Inclusive
11/09/18 • 2 min
Join us for a season of stories evaluating systemic issues in the workplace and extracting learnings used to better include marginalized or disadvantaged communities.
Editing & Post-Production by Dante32

January 2019 Teaser
Human Inclusive
01/17/19 • 0 min
2019 is in full swing, and we are working hard to get some great episodes to you as we conclude our first season. In the upcoming weeks you'll hear from leading DEI experts: Dr Tiffany Jana of TMI Consulting and Dr Deborah Egerton of Trinity Transition Consultants. We are excited to dive into issues such as getting hired as a person of color in technology, and harassment in the workplace. Stay tuned!
Dr Tiffany Jana: @tiffanyjana (instagram + twitter) TMI Consulting @tmi_consulting (Instagram)
Dr Deborah Egerton: @debegerton (twitter) Trinity Transition Consultants
Overcoming Bias: https://amzn.to/2MRfOFH
Erasing Institutional Bias: https://amzn.to/2LxgfAp
and the B-Corp Handbook: Second Edition: https://amzn.to/2BPfcfs
Stay up-to-date with what’s new by following us on Instagram: @humaninclusive
For more information visit our website: www.humaninclusive.com

Businesses prioritizing D&I: Detroit Labs
Human Inclusive
12/20/18 • 29 min
Christopher and Lia talk with Erika Languirand, Director of Training and Development at Detroit Labs, about how diversity became embedded into their DNA, why they start off day one with their diversity policy rather than writing code, and their amazing apprenticeship program that helped them create a more inclusive and diverse team. Our hope is that you’ll learn from some of the examples Erika shares from Detroit Labs’ learnings in order to make a difference in your own organization.
Follow Erika Languirand and Detroit Labs on social media:
Erika Languirand: @erikalanguirand (Instagram + Twitter) email: [email protected]
Detroit Labs: @DetroitLabs (Instagram + Twitter) web: www.detroitlabs.com
Stay up-to-date with what’s new by following us on Instagram: @humaninclusive
For more information visit our website: www.humaninclusive.com
Editing & Post-Production by Dante32

12/06/18 • 28 min
Christopher and Lia explore entrepreneurship with Ehi Aimiuwu founder of tech consultancy, Geek Empowered and podcast, Code Burnout. Ehi shares her experiences as she decided to leave corporate America to reinvest in her surrounding community -- the imposter syndrome, the motivation, and a peek behind her entrepreneur curtain.
For more behind-the-scene scoop on Ehi’s work, follow Code Burnout: @codeburnout and Geek Empowered: @GeekEmpowered on Instagram and Twitter.
Editing & Post-Production by Dante32

11/18/18 • 34 min
Christopher and Lia continue their talk with Hope Giselle, Jasmine Lopez, and Andrea Mares as they explore topics that affect the trans community.
Missed part 1? You can download it from the same place you found this episode or listen directly here.
Follow these women on social media:
Hope Giselle: Instagram & Twitter - @HopeDisguised
Jasmine Lopez: Instagram: @fudgepop.in
Andrea Mares: Instagram & Twitter - @andrea7mares
Editing & Post-Production by Dante32
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FAQ
How many episodes does Human Inclusive have?
Human Inclusive currently has 9 episodes available.
What topics does Human Inclusive cover?
The podcast is about Culture, Society & Culture, Inclusion, Community, Podcasts, Gender, Philosophy, Diversity and Race.
What is the most popular episode on Human Inclusive?
The episode title 'Demystifying Neurodiversity' is the most popular.
What is the average episode length on Human Inclusive?
The average episode length on Human Inclusive is 30 minutes.
How often are episodes of Human Inclusive released?
Episodes of Human Inclusive are typically released every 28 days, 11 hours.
When was the first episode of Human Inclusive?
The first episode of Human Inclusive was released on Nov 9, 2018.
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