Emma Dabiri on history and belonging
07/07/22 • 66 min
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Welcome to the Wintering Sessions with Katherine May.
Producer Note: You'll notice a slight change in Katherine's audio in the second half of the podcast. This is just due to a necessary 'source switch', where we had to change where her recording was coming from. Your ears will adjust very quickly but apologies for the ever so slight dip. Thank you!
This week Katherine talks to Emma Dabiri, author of Don’t Touch My Hair and What White People Can Do Next.
What begins as a conversation about Emma’s new-found commitment to appreciating all the seasons - not just summer - becomes something else entirely. Emma is one of our most agile thinkers and fearless speakers, and soon she is talking about everything from race and class to how we should think about the world right now. A thread of belonging runs through it all - how we seek and find it, how complicated our identities have become, and why it matters.
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Welcome to the Wintering Sessions with Katherine May.
Producer Note: You'll notice a slight change in Katherine's audio in the second half of the podcast. This is just due to a necessary 'source switch', where we had to change where her recording was coming from. Your ears will adjust very quickly but apologies for the ever so slight dip. Thank you!
This week Katherine talks to Emma Dabiri, author of Don’t Touch My Hair and What White People Can Do Next.
What begins as a conversation about Emma’s new-found commitment to appreciating all the seasons - not just summer - becomes something else entirely. Emma is one of our most agile thinkers and fearless speakers, and soon she is talking about everything from race and class to how we should think about the world right now. A thread of belonging runs through it all - how we seek and find it, how complicated our identities have become, and why it matters.
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KATHERINE LINKS
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'I am my childhood’s wildest dream,’ says Saima Mir. This episode is about the process of getting there, not just the determination and hard work, but also the intangibles: the beliefs, ambitions and understandings that you don’t even know how to articulate, but which hold you up on a decades-long journey to becoming.
In this conversation, the journalist and bestselling novelist talks about shame, failure, the experience of being gossiped about - but also the inner strength and family support that allowed her to reinvent herself after leaving her first two husbands. Saima came late to journalism, but forged a successful career on TV and in print before writing her genre-changing (or will it be genre-defining?) novel, The Khan. Here, she surveys that pathway to this place, and how it built her iconic character, Jia Khan.
We talked about:
- Shame, failure, the experience of being gossiped about
- Inner strength and family support that allowed her to reinvent herself
- Her best-selling novel, The Khan
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Remona Aly on breaking an engagement, and the transformative force of grief
Welcome to the Wintering Sessions with Katherine May.
While we take a rest over the summer, we’re sharing some remastered episodes from Season One, chosen by listeners.
In this episode, I speak to journalist and broadcaster Remona Aly about her life-changing decision to call off an engagement, and how it echoed through the years to teach her about forgiveness, faith and empathy.
This is such a special one for me - I went to school with Remona, and I think you can hear our joy at reconnecting after a couple of decades, and feeling so at home in the process. We cover all of human life here: buckle in.
We talked about:
- Finding the sacred in everyday life
- How grief changes you
- The need for community
- Breaking off an engagement and family shame
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