
Recycled treats and retractable leashes: The good, the bad & the hilarious
10/30/20 • 47 min
In this episode, you'll learn about two products, each invented by a woman. The first is something you've probably encountered: the retractable leash. The second is a new brand of treats called Shameless Pets, which makes yummy stuff for dogs from pre-consumer food waste. The former can be quite dangerous, but Annie suggests a way to make it safer; the latter is a successful version of a Seinfeld-esque business plan that Annie's neighbor came up with in the 1990s. In between tips about using a retractable leash and the story of Shameless Pets, you'll hear a hilarious piece of standup by comedian Drew Lynch.
Drew Lynch on retractable leashes - Mary Delaney's patent - Shameless Pet Treats - Free guide to house training
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Partial Transcription:
Annie:
Do you need some help teaching your dog where you want him to pee or poop, and when? If so, I hope you’ll check out our brand new totally free house training guide. You can find it at schoolforthedogs.com/house. It’s filled with lots of really good tips on how to train a dog to potty in the right spot. But it also is going to explain to you how to teach your dog to do it on cue. So go check it out. Schoolforthedogs.com/house.
[Intro music]
Hi, thanks for being here, humans. There are two parts to this episode. One part is about retractable leashes and the other part is a conversation I had with Alex Waite, who is one of the founders of Shameless, which is a really cool brand of treats that you’re going to learn a lot about. They’re doing things differently in a very interesting way.
Just a reminder that if you liked this podcast, please go to iTunes and leave a review and support us by shopping in our online store storeforthedogs.com. I think we have the greatest stuff in the world there, for people who love their dogs. Enjoy.
So here’s something you might not know if you’ve never worked with a dog trainer or you don’t hang out with dog trainers. Most dog trainers, at least the ones that I know, don’t like retractable leashes. And there are a bunch of reasons for this. For one, we want our dogs to ideally be walking on a loose leash. I always say a leash should be there the same way a seatbelt is in a car. You don’t wear the seatbelt and then feel like, okay, now I can drive like a madman. It’s there in case of an emergency.
Ideally your dog should be able to walk in a vicinity that is acceptable, but the leash should be there in case of an emergency. And if you have a leash that is always taut, your dog can get used to feeling that the leash has to have some kind of pull on him at all times. So often dogs on retractable leashes are dogs who have learned to pull.
Another reason is that the cord that attaches the class to the plastic chunky part of the retractable leash is very thin. And if you, if you get it wound around a finger or your leg or a dog, it can really do some damage. Actually, if you go to Google and you start typing in retractable leash, at least on my computer, the first suggested thing that comes up for you to be Googling is retractable leash injuries. Thanks to the magic of Google images, you can see what retractable leash injuries look like, and they’re pretty awful.
Full Transcript available at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast
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In this episode, you'll learn about two products, each invented by a woman. The first is something you've probably encountered: the retractable leash. The second is a new brand of treats called Shameless Pets, which makes yummy stuff for dogs from pre-consumer food waste. The former can be quite dangerous, but Annie suggests a way to make it safer; the latter is a successful version of a Seinfeld-esque business plan that Annie's neighbor came up with in the 1990s. In between tips about using a retractable leash and the story of Shameless Pets, you'll hear a hilarious piece of standup by comedian Drew Lynch.
Drew Lynch on retractable leashes - Mary Delaney's patent - Shameless Pet Treats - Free guide to house training
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Partial Transcription:
Annie:
Do you need some help teaching your dog where you want him to pee or poop, and when? If so, I hope you’ll check out our brand new totally free house training guide. You can find it at schoolforthedogs.com/house. It’s filled with lots of really good tips on how to train a dog to potty in the right spot. But it also is going to explain to you how to teach your dog to do it on cue. So go check it out. Schoolforthedogs.com/house.
[Intro music]
Hi, thanks for being here, humans. There are two parts to this episode. One part is about retractable leashes and the other part is a conversation I had with Alex Waite, who is one of the founders of Shameless, which is a really cool brand of treats that you’re going to learn a lot about. They’re doing things differently in a very interesting way.
Just a reminder that if you liked this podcast, please go to iTunes and leave a review and support us by shopping in our online store storeforthedogs.com. I think we have the greatest stuff in the world there, for people who love their dogs. Enjoy.
So here’s something you might not know if you’ve never worked with a dog trainer or you don’t hang out with dog trainers. Most dog trainers, at least the ones that I know, don’t like retractable leashes. And there are a bunch of reasons for this. For one, we want our dogs to ideally be walking on a loose leash. I always say a leash should be there the same way a seatbelt is in a car. You don’t wear the seatbelt and then feel like, okay, now I can drive like a madman. It’s there in case of an emergency.
Ideally your dog should be able to walk in a vicinity that is acceptable, but the leash should be there in case of an emergency. And if you have a leash that is always taut, your dog can get used to feeling that the leash has to have some kind of pull on him at all times. So often dogs on retractable leashes are dogs who have learned to pull.
Another reason is that the cord that attaches the class to the plastic chunky part of the retractable leash is very thin. And if you, if you get it wound around a finger or your leg or a dog, it can really do some damage. Actually, if you go to Google and you start typing in retractable leash, at least on my computer, the first suggested thing that comes up for you to be Googling is retractable leash injuries. Thanks to the magic of Google images, you can see what retractable leash injuries look like, and they’re pretty awful.
Full Transcript available at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast
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Annie's BFF Daisy Carrington on growing up with a stolen dog, being a childhood loan shark & more
In this bonus episode, Annie talks to one of her best friends, Daisy Carrington, who she has known since high school. After Daisy recently came in second place at a Moth story telling event, Annie asked her to share her story on this podcast. Her story doesn't really have to do with dogs, so Annie drilled her about her childhood with dogs to justify having her on as a guest. Daisy remembers her screenwriter father, who lived in Malibu with a stolen Staffordshire Terrier named Zeb who he loved "as if he were an ex-wife," and talks about the time in tenth grade when Annie "ran away" to her apartment with her Wheaten Terrier, Zeke. Annie and Daisy met when they were seven, became friends in high school, and later both became journalists. Their children were born ten weeks apart. They discuss both of their transitions away from journalism into new careers. But the best part of the episode is when Daisy tells the story of how, as an 8-year-old living in Malibu, she became a loan shark to a famous British con man, Count Guiy de Montfort.
Learn more about Guiy de Montfort here - Daisy's dad was screenwriter Robert Carrington, who wrote, among other things, the Audrey Hepburn movie Wait Until Dark - Learn more about Daisy Carrington at DaisyCarrington.com - Paris Themmen - What ever happened to the Oompa Loompa actors?
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Partial Transcript:
Annie:
This is a bonus episode in which I am talking to one of my very best friends about her life with dogs and some other things, too. This is a conversation with Daisy Carrington. We’ve been friends since we were kids. We both grew up to be journalists and are now both working in other areas. I hope you enjoy our lively conversation.
I miss you.
Daisy:
I miss you too, my love. Won’t be gone for too long. I mean, I know it’s a couple months, but it will fly by.
Annie:
So I feel like I, since I’m going to record this, I feel like I need to explain to anyone listening, why I wanted to talk to you, as you are not someone who has a dog or works with dogs. Or I don’t think you have even very strong feelings about the things that I do as a dog trainer. But, as you know, you are one of my oldest and best friends, and I will take any excuse to chat with you.
But, a few months ago back when people went out and did things, you told me that you went and did a story at The Moth. And I was sad that I didn’t get to go see it. And also sad that you didn’t win, that you came in second because you are such a great and hilarious storyteller that I’m sure that you should have won.
Daisy:
I did feel robbed.
Annie:
I’m sure you were robbed. And we just haven’t had a moment where I could be like, sit down and perform it for me. So I thought, all right, well, if I can like, have you on the podcast, then it’ll be more of an occasion. And you will be forced to tell me your story, which I guess I’ve heard, because I’ve just known you for so long, but I haven’t heard the perfect telling of it. So I don’t if you’re up for it, but in order to warm up and to justify having you here, I thought we should talk a little bit about dogs first.
Full transcript available at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcast
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Virtual private training session: Yoshi, an adolescent Shepherd who jumps on people on the street
Sit in on an initial virtual private dog training session with Annie Grossman and NYC resident Kari. Kari lives near School For The Dogs with an 8-month old Shepherd mix named Yoshi. Yoshi likes to jump on people when they're walking down the street, and he is quick to rollover on his back when people greet him. Annie gives Kari tips on keeping his attention while walking outside, suggests how to set up practice sessions with people approaching him, and gives Kari some fun and easy exercises she can work on with Yoshi in their home.
Book a private session: schoolforthedogs.com/services - Get a free thirty minute private session when you purchase our Good Dog Training Course: schoolforthedogs.com/courses - Liquid Treat Dispenser: SchoolForTheDogs.com/ltd
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Partial Transcript:
[Music]
Annie:
This is a recording of a private session we did with a client. You can book a virtual or in-person private session at schoolforthedogs.com. And for a limited time, you can get a free 30 minute virtual consult when you buy our Good Dog Training course available at schoolforthedogs.com/courses. The trainer in the session is me, Annie. The client is Carrie who lives in Manhattan with her adolescent rescue dog, Yoshi.
Hi. Hi Kari. Nice to meet you.
Kari:
Hello. Hold on. Let me just adjust the volume. I don’t use zoom so I know nothing about this. Okay.
Hi.
Annie:
Hi. So is this Yoshi?
Kari
Oh yeah. I gave him an antler to keep him busy, so he’s right behind me.
Annie:
Oh, yummy antler. Well, that sounds smart. So tell me a little bit about how Yoshi came into your life and then let’s figure out how we can deal with... Doesn’t sound like you’re having major issues, but maybe a couple of things that we can improve upon.
Kari:
Okay. So we adopted him early August. He was an instant foster fail.
Annie:
And remind me, do you live in New York city?
Kari:
I’m literally three blocks south of School for the Dogs.
Annie:
Oh, awesome. Okay. Where did, where did you adopt him from?
Kari:
True North rescue. So we’ve always wanted a dog for a long time, but I’ve never really pulled the trigger. I’d scroll Petfinder for a long time. We decided to, but you know, pandemic happened and I was home a lot and I’m like, I think it’s time. And we decided to foster at first because I wasn’t really sure or 100% ready to commit to a dog. So I said, let’s start fostering.
The rescue that we got him from said that they were getting dogs from Puerto Rico. So that’s where he’s from. He’s from Puerto Rico. They flew him to Florida. He saw a vet there and then they loaded them to a truck and ended up in New York. So, I picked him out of a bunch of photos. I knew nothing about him. He was six months when we got him and all they told me that he was a shepherd mix. We don’t really know what kind of mix he is. I don’t know if that matters. I wasn’t really keen on finding out right now.
So we got him, he was six months. He didn’t really have any problems. apart from, of course within the first week he was sleeping a lot. He was probably really exhausted. And of course he was scared. I think he was more scared of us than anything else. So I had very little trouble. I didn’t even have to crate train him. He would go into his crate, no problem.
Full Transcript available at SchoolfortheDogs.com/podcast
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