
Keeping Forests - Audacious Goals Require Different Thinking
04/01/21 • 46 min
How the River Flows highlights how our region’s communities are banding together to conserve the 245 million acres of existing forests. Each episode will take a close look at the relationship between healthy forests and clean drinking water. We talk to the experts on the ground who share their best ideas for conserving local forests to ensure a lasting, clean supply of drinking water for future generations. Included in these discussions will be issues surrounding taxes and compensation, infrastructure, and voter initiatives. You’ll learn how these innovations are financed, managed and how your local community can join the effort in protecting our precious southern forests and the many benefits that they provide.
In this episode,
Judy A. Takats talks with Ken Arney, Regional Forester for the Southern Region of the U.S. Forest Service, Dr. Anne Murray Allen, an experienced executive in building effective collaborations in cross-sector work, and Scott Davis, who worked extensively in conservation at The Nature Conservancy.
Produced by Lee Schneider. Music by Chuck Leavell. Executive Producer: Judy A. Takats.
How the River Flows highlights how our region’s communities are banding together to conserve the 245 million acres of existing forests. Each episode will take a close look at the relationship between healthy forests and clean drinking water. We talk to the experts on the ground who share their best ideas for conserving local forests to ensure a lasting, clean supply of drinking water for future generations. Included in these discussions will be issues surrounding taxes and compensation, infrastructure, and voter initiatives. You’ll learn how these innovations are financed, managed and how your local community can join the effort in protecting our precious southern forests and the many benefits that they provide.
In this episode,
Judy A. Takats talks with Ken Arney, Regional Forester for the Southern Region of the U.S. Forest Service, Dr. Anne Murray Allen, an experienced executive in building effective collaborations in cross-sector work, and Scott Davis, who worked extensively in conservation at The Nature Conservancy.
Produced by Lee Schneider. Music by Chuck Leavell. Executive Producer: Judy A. Takats.
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What We've Learned About Long-Term Investments in Water: A Conversation with Margaret Walls
Kevin McIntyre speaks with Dr. Margaret A. Walls, an economist and a senior fellow at Resources for the Future and a specialist in conservation and ecosystem services. Her research is rooted in finding cost-effective remedies and building resilience in the aftermath of natural disasters like floods and wildfires. She explains the meaning behind ecosystem services and the specific societal values we get from nature, such as how forests naturally reduce flooding and how responsibly managed forests leads to better water quality. Dr. Walls also explains payment for watershed services and how providing landowner incentives and creating a market is a win-win situation for everyone for both water consumers and landowners alike. Produced by Lee Schneider. Music by Chuck Leavell.
How the River Flows highlights how our region’s communities are banding together to conserve the 245 million acres of existing forests. Each episode will take a close look at the relationship between healthy forests and clean drinking water. We talk to the experts on the ground who share their best ideas for conserving local forests to ensure a lasting, clean supply of drinking water for future generations. Included in these discussions will be issues surrounding taxes and compensation, infrastructure, and voter initiatives. You’ll learn how these innovations are financed, managed and how your local community can join the effort in protecting our precious southern forests and the many benefits that they provide.
Music by Chuck Levell. Produced by Red Cup Agency. Executive Producer: Judy A. Takats.
Links and Resources:
An abstract for Dr. Walls' paper, Evaluating Payments for Watershed Services Programs in the United States
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Easing into Watershed Protection with Taxes and Bonds featuring Lon Shell, Frank Davis, and Phillip Covington
In this episode, Leslie Bobby of Southern Regional Extension Forestry talks to Frank Davis and Commissioner Lon Shell, important water management players in the Hill Country region of Texas, an area marked by considerable growth and development in recent years.
They discuss how communities around San Antonio are using taxes and those around Austin are using bonds to ensure they have clean water for generations to come.
Frank Davis is the Chief Conservation Officer at Hill Country Conservancy, working with rural landowners and other public partners to finance and implement conservation projects benefiting water, wildlife and sustainable agricultural production. Lon Shell is a Hays County Commissioner overseeing county policy, departmental budgets, and tax rates. They discuss their success in implementing fair taxes and bonds, collaborating across sectors, and the bipartisan support for initiatives supporting clean water for future generations. Phillip Covington is the Special Projects Manager for the City of San Antonio’s Edwards Aquifer Protection Program. He is responsible for the purchase of properties and conservation easements over the recharge and contributing zones of the Edwards Aquifer as well as for the annual monitoring of nearly 100 conservation easements.
Produced by Lee Schneider. Music by Chuck Leavell.Executive Producer: Judy A. Takats.
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