Hollinger & Duncan NBA Show - NBA Basketball Podcast

Nate Duncan and John Hollinger revisit the 2024 NBA trade deadline, re-evaluating the biggest moves, the teams that improved (or didn't), and the deals that didn't happen but should have. They also discuss the latest developments with Victor Wembanyama's health and San Antonio’s future.

OKC’s Stealth Salary Dump & the Gordon Hayward Trade (00:44)

• The Thunder’s move to clear salary space for Isaiah Hartenstein.
• Gordon Hayward’s underwhelming stint and OKC’s decision to prioritize future flexibility.
• Debate: Would OKC have been better off going after OG Anunoby or Pascal Siakam?

Dallas Mavericks’ Deadline Moves & Playoff Impact (05:06)

• Initial skepticism about acquiring Daniel Gafford & P.J. Washington.
• How both played key roles in Dallas’ Western Conference Finals run.
• The risk of giving up draft control from 2027-2030.
• In hindsight, a clear win for the Mavericks.

The James Harden Trade: Did the Clippers Win? (10:00)

• Clippers gave up future assets for Harden, but did it pay off?
• Sixers’ long-term play: Did Daryl Morey make the right call?
• Clippers' lack of draft control from 2027-2030 could limit future flexibility.

Toronto Raptors’ Trade Strategy (15:00)

• Evaluating the OG Anunoby and Pascal Siakam trades.
• Why the Raptors prioritized players over picks.
• The case for and against RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley as core pieces.
• How does Brandon Ingram fit into the Raptors' long-term plans?

Indiana Pacers’ Pascal Siakam Trade & Fit (23:05)

• Siakam’s seamless fit next to Myles Turner and Tyrese Haliburton.
• Was he the better choice over Brandon Ingram?
• The Pacers’ salary cap challenges moving forward.

Miami Heat’s Terry Rozier Trade: A Disaster? (31:30)

• Rozier’s struggles in Miami.
• The Heat’s miscalculation on their championship window.
• The future of Miami’s draft pick situation.

Chicago Bulls’ Trade Deadline Inactivity (43:42)

• Bulls failing to trade Alex Caruso, DeMar DeRozan, or Andre Drummond.
• Could OKC have traded Josh Giddey for Caruso at the deadline?
• How Chicago mismanaged DeRozan’s value and ended up with a poor return in free agency.

Portland Trail Blazers’ Missed Opportunities (46:00)

• Holding onto Jerami Grant and Anfernee Simons instead of capitalizing on their trade value.
• The declining value of Grant’s contract.
• Could Portland have gotten a P.J. Washington-like return for Grant?

Smaller Deadline Moves & Their Impact (51:00)

• Memphis Grizzlies getting a surprise draft asset for David Roddy.
• Houston Rockets trading for Steven Adams and how he fits.
• The Boston Celtics’ trade for Xavier Tillman paying off in the NBA Finals.

Victor Wembanyama’s Health & Spurs’ Future (54:00)

• Impact of Wembanyama’s injury on San Antonio’s rebuild.
• The Spurs’ roster needs: Who stays and who could be replaced?
• Should the Spurs consider a coaching change?
• Could Chris Paul be a buyout candidate?

Final Thoughts & Playoff Elimination (1:00:00)

• San Antonio officially eliminated from the playoffs.
• Reflecting on the biggest winners and losers from the 2024 trade deadline.
• Wrapping up with audience Q&A and discussion of future trade market implications.

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John joins us for a special unplanned H&D in which he gives us his special front office insight on what went down in Dallas, plus our evaluations of the Fox trade.

On Luka:

• What the Mavs’ process was–and how it got circumvented
• Whether AD was the best they could have done to win now
• Whether it was a rational decision not to “shop” Luka
• Do we buy that Jason Kidd didn’t know this trade was coming?
• Nico Harrison’s comments about a 3-4 year horizon
• If Dennis Lindsey still being in Dallas would have changed things
• How much did this trade change our priors on what Luka is as a player?
• Is it possible Luka doesn’t stay in LA?

On Fox:

• Why the Kings did ok here.
• Does this trade enable the Bulls to turn over a new leaf, or the same dead leaf over and over again?

Full Daily Duncs with links

• Mavericks-76ers trade
• Warriors-Kevin Durant
• Golden State Warriors
• Luka Doncic
• Luka Doncic trade
• Thunder-Hornets trade
• De'Aaron Fox trade
• Dunc'd On Live
• Cap sheets
• MLE trades

Full Daily Duncs with links

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Why John would have suspended Draymond, and why Nate wouldn’t have. Plus, the Thursday Daily Duncs.

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Thursday Daily Duncs (10/13/22)

Patrick Beverley-Russell Westbrook

Something or nothing? In the Lakers' preseason loss to the Timberwolves yesterday, Patrick Beverley tried to bring his floormates together during a stoppage. Russell Westbrook didn't join.

As much as Beverley has talked up his fast friendship with Westbrook now that they're teammates in Los Angeles, there are many years of them being nemeses.

But I'm going with nothing.

Westbrook, who was called for a foul on the preceding play, might have been talking to a referee. Though resisting Beverley's continued attempts to wave him into the huddle, Westbrook high-fived Beverley while taking his spot outside the paint. By that time, Westbrook might have thought he was too late to huddle and it was time for the free throw.

Mostly, it's the high-five that does it for me. That's a key piece of evidence people overly thirsty for Lakers drama are overlooking

Draymond Green

The Warriors didn't suspend Draymond Green for punching Jordan Poole in the face.

Why not?

Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN:

I'm told that the Warriors, they put a significant amount of weight on the fact that opening night was ring night, that the players are going to get their rings. Draymond Green, Klay Thompson, Steph Curry – their fourth championship in Golden State. The banner is going to be raised. They did not treat this like it was one of 82. They didn't want to suspend Draymond Green and keep him from that. Now, if this incident had happened in the regular season or if this had just been a normal opening night and they weren't there as defending champions, there probably would've been a suspension for Draymond Green.

This strikes me as reasonable. Green was integral to the Warriors winning the championship. The ring-and-banner ceremony is a uniquely special moment in celebrating that massive accomplishment.

There are two, overlapping questions about how Golden State should have punished Green: How severe should the punishment have been? What punishment is appropriate? You can think Green deserved a harsher penalty than he got while believing suspending him for ring night wouldn't have been a fitting punishment.

My problem with the logic, though: Why didn't the Warriors just suspend Green for their previous two preseason games (which he missed anyway while away from the team) and maybe their last preseason game tomorrow (which he'll probably play in)? If Golden State wanted to send a message of a suspension while allowing Green to attend ring night, that would have been an easy middle ground.

Instead, the Warriors went out of their way to say Green's weeklong absence wasn't a suspension.

Jeanie Buss

Rich Eisen asked Lakers owner Jeannie Buss who's in her inner circle.

Buss:

“People are fascinated with that for some reason. I could ask you, do you ever ask Mark Cuban who his inner circle is? Or Joe Lacob who his inner circle is? There’s just something about being a woman I think people feel like, ‘Oh, what crutches does she need, or what does she lean on, because she’s not capable of doing it herself.’ I have great people that I work with. People seem most interested in Linda Rambis, who I’ve been working with for over 30 years. I’ve operated in the same style since I started working with the organization and, even before that, with the Great Western Forum putting on events. And I build – I’m a leader. I’m not a dictator. I like to build consensus. I like to hear from everybody at the table. And then ultimately people need to understand, I’m the governor of the team, and I’m held accountable for every decision that’s made both business and basketball. So if anything goes wrong, it’s on my watch, and I’m held accountable for it.”

People are fascinated with Buss' inner circle because they care about the Lakers. People caring so deeply about the Lakers has made Buss a lot of money, by the way. The franchise has made numerous questionable-at-best decisions, and people are so invested in the team, they want to understand who's behind those decisions.

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Nate Duncan and John Hollinger break down the first week of the playoffs, including standout teams, superstar performances, the best and worst coaching jobs, surprising players, and early lessons from the playoff crucible

Who has been the best team of the playoffs so far?

Would we change our overall playoff predictions based on what we’ve seen?

The biggest change to our pre-series predictions after the first week.

Grading the superstars' performances in the early going.

The best prediction we made heading into the playoffs.

The worst prediction we made so far.

The best coaching jobs and the most impressive adjustments of the playoffs so far.

The worst coaching jobs and most questionable adjustments or non-adjustments.

The most surprising/disappointing players of the first week.

The best game of the playoffs to this point.

The worst game we've seen so far.

The best individual performance in a single playoff game.

Who would make the All-Playoffs First Team after one week?

Revisiting our playoff preview categories and early observations.

The playoff crucible: who thrived and who couldn’t hack it?

Which rotation players withstood the pressure?

Which players have turned to ash?

Full Daily Duncs with links⁠

• Giannis Antetokounmpo
• Defensive Player of the Year
• Cleveland Cavaliers
• Thunder-Grizzlies
• Detroit Pistons
• Knicks-Pistons
• Nuggets-Clippers
• Scoring
• Game 3s
• Alijah Arenas

⁠Full Daily Duncs with links

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Which players haven’t gotten their historical due over the years? John and Nate each pick their top-3 most underrated players ever, in comparison to how they are publicly perceived. Included: Some players who should be Hall of Famers, Hall of Famers nobody talks about, and some players who should be talked about in the top-10 ever but are not.

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