JP Morgan Healthcare Recap: Live with Dan Michelson, CEO at Strata Decision Technology

02/14/20 • 42 min

Healthcare is Hard: A Podcast for Insiders

Dan Michelson’s recap of the JP Morgan Healthcare Conference in Becker’s Hospital Review has become a must-read over the past few years – whether you attend the conferences or not. Dan’s organization, Strata Decision Technology, works with more than 1,000 hospitals from hundreds of health systems on their financial planning, analytics and performance. And as CEO, he has a unique view across systems that allows him to neatly unpack and bring clarity to the various sessions and conversations that occur throughout the JPM conference.

Dan’s insight is especially welcome when it comes to the conversations that happen in the secluded confines of the thirty-second floor of the Westin St. Francis Hotel during JPM week. That’s where dozens of CEOs and CFOs from the nation’s largest health systems gather to hear presentations from their peers about high-level strategies in this rapidly changing market.

If you’ve read Dan’s articles and wondered how he got started writing them, or if you’ve wanted to hear directly from him with more context on his thoughts, here is your chance. In this episode of Healthcare is Hard, Keith Figlioli’s conversation with Dan brings his JPM recap to life. This year, based on all the provider presentations and many one-on-one conversations, Dan outlines the 10 questions that health systems should be asking and answering to guide the future of their organizations. He and Keith take a deep dive into these questions, discussing topics including:

Performance. Looking at whether a leadership team should spend their time focusing on performance or building a budget is one of the important questions Dan outlines for health systems. He explains the choices systems have in more detail, using OSF Healthcare as an example. The Peoria, Illinois-based provider shifted away from traditional budgeting processes in favor of a rolling approach and according to Dan, saved 20,000 hours of leadership time and more than $1 million in spend.
Market share. Dan says providers need to change their mindset and think differently about how they define market share as healthcare evolves. In addition to the “share of cup” analogy Dan explained in his written recap, he talks about his experience hearing Walmart’s head of healthcare discuss the retail behemoth’s view of the market. While providers believe they own the patient relationship, he points out how only half of Americans say they have a primary care provider and among the other half, two-thirds haven’t visited their primary care provider in years. With that data, what does Walmart have to say about the market and the patient-provider relationship? “Alright, we’ll take the other 84%.”
The “other five” questions. While Dan’s article framed the ten questions providers should be asking, Keith calls him to task for adding another five at the end of the piece without full explanations. Dan says his point is that the ten specific questions health systems are asking themselves doesn’t really matter; what really matters is that they’re asking tough questions like these at the executive level. However, he explains why he thinks questions about affordability are the ones that leave health systems most exposed right now.

To hear Dan and Keith’s conversation, listen to this episode of Healthcare is Hard: A Podcast for Insiders.

Performance. Looking at whether a leadership team should spend their time focusing on performance or building a budget is one of the important questions Dan outlines for health systems. He explains the choices systems have in more detail, using OSF Healthcare as an example. The Peoria, Illinois-based provider shifted away from traditional budgeting processes in favor of a rolling approach and according to Dan, saved 20,000 hours of leadership time and more than $1 million in spend.
Market share. Dan says providers need to change their mindset and think differently about how they define market share as healthcare evolves. In addition to the “share of cup” analogy Dan explained in his written recap, he talks about his experience hearing Walmart’s head of healthcare discuss the retail behemoth’s view of the market. While providers believe they own the patient relationship, he points out how only half of Americans say they have a primary care provider and among the other half, two-thirds haven’t visited their primary care provider in years. With that data, what does Walmart have to say about the market and the patient-provider relationship? “Alright, we’ll take the other 84%.”
The “other five” questions. While Dan’s article framed the ten questions providers should be asking, Keith calls him to task for adding another five at the end of the piece without full explanations. Dan says his point is that the ten specific questions health systems are asking themselves doesn’t really matter; what really matters is that they’re asking tough questions like these at the executive level. However, he explains why he thinks questions about affordability are the ones that leave health systems most exposed right now.

To hear Dan and Keith’s conversation, listen to this episode of Healthcare is Hard: A Podcast for Insiders.

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How Does Providence Lead Healthcare Innovation After 161 Years? Hear From CEO Dr. Rod Hochman and Chief Digital Officer Aaron Martin

In 1856, the Sisters of Providence began establishing hospitals, schools and orphanages across the Northwest, and that humble beginning planted the seed of what is now one of the largest and most innovative health systems in the country. Providence brings together more than 119,000 caregivers across seven states, 51 hospitals, 829 physician clinics, and many other health and educational services.
Being headquartered outside Seattle – with the access to tech talent that location affords – is just one element that has allowed Providence to flourish amid the rapidly shifting healthcare landscape and the pervasiveness of digital transformation. The organization’s foresight to get ahead of this shift was honed under the leadership of Dr. Rod Hochman as CEO and extended through a number of strategic hires, including the addition of former Amazon executive Aaron Martin as Chief Digital Officer.
In this episode of Healthcare is Hard, Keith Figlioli talks to Rod and Aaron about the longstanding values and evolving strategies that have kept Providence at the forefront of U.S. healthcare for so long, and how they plan to build on that history. Their conversation touched upon a wide range of topics including:

Partnering inside and outside the industry. As more organizations enter the healthcare market to force disruption, Rod goes beyond recognizing the potential of partnerships and points back to a document from the health system’s founding sisters that calls for seeking partnerships.He describes the document as a constitution that remains relevant today as a means to inspire the organization with the values that inspired its founding sisters nearly 175 years ago. In that spirit, Aaron describes later in the conversation how Providence works extremely closely with other health systems and has had more than 120 visit over the past two years to work collaboratively on the challenges they face.
The roadmap for new entrants. Thinking back to his days at Amazon, Aaron talks about how he couldn’t imagine a conversation with Jeff Bezos suggesting an opportunity in a low-margin business that’s very complicated, fraught with legal, brand and other risk, where life and death is actually at stake. For these reasons, Aaron is doubtful that tech companies entering the market will get into care provisioning in a big and meaningful way and believes that partnerships between health systems and companies like Amazon and Microsoft will be critical.
A focus on SDOH before it existed. One unique piece of trivia Rod shares about Providence involves its continued investment in areas such as housing and education. The system runs an 85-year old liberal arts college in Great Falls, Montana, a high school in Burbank, California and manages public housing for seniors and low income populations in multiple states. In other words, Providence was invested in social determinants of health long before others were thinking about them, providing a high degree of knowledge and experience to address these increasing challenges.
Diversifying revenue. In the future, Providence will not be able to exist on patient care revenue alone, according to Rod. That’s why he’s set a goal to create $1 billion in revenue with a 20% EBITA from things other than patient care within the next three years. He talks about the need to become a services company in order to achieve this goal, and gives examples of what that involves.

To hear Rod and Aaron talk about these topics and more, listen to this episode of Healthcare is Hard: A Podcast for Insiders.

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The Critical Role of Safety Net Health Systems with Boston Medical Center CEO, Kate Walsh

There’s one major difference between Boston Medical Center (BMC) and the other outstanding health systems in Boston. While being a major part of a city and region that’s renowned for world-class healthcare and innovation, BMC is the safety net institution.
More than half of BMC’s patients live at or below the federal poverty level, defined as annual income less than $20,000 for a family of three, and one-third of medical encounters require translator assistance of some kind. In other words, BMC is a big and divers place. And it encompasses all the pieces of the health system, from an academic medical center, to a network of community health centers, and a Medicaid insurance plan that services 400,000 people in Massachusetts and New Hampshire.
With this and more in one organization, BMC essentially has one payer: Medicaid. So, to fulfill its mission of providing exceptional care without exception, BMC is constantly seeking new and innovative ways to care for the community and produce healthcare services at a price the country can afford.
In this episode of Healthcare is Hard, Keith Figlioli talks to BMC’s president and CEO, Kate Walsh, to learn about how she approaches these challenges. Their conversation covers a number of topics including:

Coronavirus magnifying public health necessities. During a conversation which took place just at the U.S. began to experience the spread of Covid-19, Kate shares her optimism about preparedness, especially in Massachusetts, where government, academic and health leaders have been collaborating closely. But she also talks about how the pandemic magnifies questions about where healthcare dollars are spent – more often on the episode of illness rather than maintaining the public’s health – and the need to think more comprehensively.
Strength in academics. As the primary teaching affiliate for Boston University School of Medicine, Kate is extremely encouraged by hundreds of young residents who, every year, bring a drive and ambition to change the world. She also talks about how being a system rooted in academics means that major decisions are led by evidence, an approach that’s just as valuable for tackling both clinical and social challenges. She points to poverty and other social determinants and how they need the same academic focus, rigor and research. For example, one of the newest studies from BMC revealed just how difficult it is to capture the full scope of social determinants through screening.
Food as medicine. BMC has been ahead of the curve in addressing the impact of food insecurity. Through a partnership with the Greater Boston Food Bank, BMC has been writing prescriptions for food for 15 years and now integrates the process directly into the clinical workflow. Prescriptions for food are included in a patient’s electronic medical record to optimize for dietary needs and, just as importantly, confirm that a patient has picked up their food. Writing a prescription for food has also removed some of the stigma of visiting a food pantry and has developed into a program that now serves 7,000 families per month.
Partnering on housing. Kate jokes that the last person you want to build housing is a healthcare executive because they can’t do it for less than $1 million a bed. But with that awareness, BMC partners with the right organizations that can direct investments where they help patients most. Kate notes how this is more than simply providing a key: it’s understanding where simple rehabs can help patients safely transition home, to searching for answers about how people fell into homelessness in order to help them get out.

To hear Kate and Keith talk about these topics and more, listen to this episode of Healthcare is Hard: A Podcast for Insiders.