
From Unconventional Warfare to Hybrid Warfare with former SF Operator Curtis Fox - Episode 45
01/26/24 • 86 min
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Welcome back to the Grey Dynamics Podcast! Today, we are talking to Curtis Fox, former Green Beret, author, graduate of Georgetown University and currently a program manager. His book 'Hybrid Warfare: The Russian Approach To Strategic Competition & Conventional Military Conflict' is out now. We discussed some of the fascinating topics covered in it. Including how Russia has applied hybrid warfare in Ukraine since 2014, the collapse of effective cooperation between the FSB and GRU, as well as the destruction of Russia's special forces capability.
Disclaimer: All of Curtis Fox's opinions are his own and do not reflect the policy of the US Department of Defense or the US Government.
Find Curtis:
- Hybrid Warfare: The Russian Approach To Strategic Competition & Conventional Military Conflict
We spoke about:
- 0:55 - Why Curtis chose to join the Green Berets
- 4:26 - Deployments during the war on terror as part of 10th Special Forces Group
- 5:15 - Experiencing other cultures
- 6:23 - Observations on Somalia
- 13:01 - The legacy of French colonialism and Wagner’s activities in the Sahel
- 22:00 - Historical Russian strategy and hybrid warfare
- 32:38 - Did Russia’s hybrid warfare strategy work in Ukraine from 2014?
- 41:31 - The GRU, Salisbury and being cut out of planning for the 2022 invasion
- 48:09 - The FSB’s botched invasion plan and feeding the Kremlin bad intelligence
- 56:29 - The future of Russia’s hybrid warfare strategy and destruction of their special forces capability
- 1:00:27 - Could Serbia use Russia’s hybrid warfare strategy themselves?
- 1:04:26 - Does the West underestimate the Iranians?
- 1:10:00 - Career advice for young people, including those looking to join special forces
- 1:13:58 - Advice to those looking to write a book
- 1:15:57 - How Grey Dynamics decides what topics to cover
- 1:21:24 - Cultural recommendations
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Welcome back to the Grey Dynamics Podcast! Today, we are talking to Curtis Fox, former Green Beret, author, graduate of Georgetown University and currently a program manager. His book 'Hybrid Warfare: The Russian Approach To Strategic Competition & Conventional Military Conflict' is out now. We discussed some of the fascinating topics covered in it. Including how Russia has applied hybrid warfare in Ukraine since 2014, the collapse of effective cooperation between the FSB and GRU, as well as the destruction of Russia's special forces capability.
Disclaimer: All of Curtis Fox's opinions are his own and do not reflect the policy of the US Department of Defense or the US Government.
Find Curtis:
- Hybrid Warfare: The Russian Approach To Strategic Competition & Conventional Military Conflict
We spoke about:
- 0:55 - Why Curtis chose to join the Green Berets
- 4:26 - Deployments during the war on terror as part of 10th Special Forces Group
- 5:15 - Experiencing other cultures
- 6:23 - Observations on Somalia
- 13:01 - The legacy of French colonialism and Wagner’s activities in the Sahel
- 22:00 - Historical Russian strategy and hybrid warfare
- 32:38 - Did Russia’s hybrid warfare strategy work in Ukraine from 2014?
- 41:31 - The GRU, Salisbury and being cut out of planning for the 2022 invasion
- 48:09 - The FSB’s botched invasion plan and feeding the Kremlin bad intelligence
- 56:29 - The future of Russia’s hybrid warfare strategy and destruction of their special forces capability
- 1:00:27 - Could Serbia use Russia’s hybrid warfare strategy themselves?
- 1:04:26 - Does the West underestimate the Iranians?
- 1:10:00 - Career advice for young people, including those looking to join special forces
- 1:13:58 - Advice to those looking to write a book
- 1:15:57 - How Grey Dynamics decides what topics to cover
- 1:21:24 - Cultural recommendations
Advance Your Intelligence Career Today!
We are the first fully online intelligence school helping professionals to achieve their long term goals. Our school with tons of new material is currently under construction and will be out there very soon. Meanwhile, you can sign up and be the first to know when we launch, plus get exclusive tips and offers.
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With security clearance, you can take a crucial role in our intelligence community. As a cleared member, you get access to secret & top secret grade publications. If you are a Top Secret holder, you also get access to our community area, where you can interact with other members and with our analysts! Subscribe today!
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- 18:22 - How corporations interfere in the US political process
- 24:43 - Interference in other countries elections
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