
Craig LeHoullier and Patrina Small, The Tomato Episode, Introduction, Dwarfs, and Epic Tomatoes
10/15/19 • 82 min
I apologize in advance for the audio quality of this episode. I was dealing with a dodgy microphone and some parts of my audio has static, but this is only here and there during the interview and its otherwise acceptable. I have it fixed, it won't continue into future episodes.
In this episode I give an overview of the domesticated tomato, my feelings on the term "Heirloom", I have a talk with Patrina Nuske Small and Craig LeHoullier about Dwarf Tomatoes, and I review Craigs book Epic Tomatoes.
Here are some tomato varieties mentioned in the Interview Portion
- Wherokowhai pronounced fer-dow-co-fi
- Uluru Ochre
- Kangaroo Paw Red
- Sweet Scarlet Dwarf
- Dwarf Golden Gypsy
- Dwarf Firebird Sweet
- Dwarf Wild Fred
Craig LeHoullier and Patrina Small links
- Epic Tomatoes
- Dwarf Tomato Project
- S2E4 THE DWARF TOMATO PROJECT -- FREE THE SEED! PODCAST
- Tomato grower Petrina Nuske Small, from south-east NSW, talks about the new tomato variety she has bred.
General Links
- Seed Savers Exchange
- Tomatoville
- Open Source Seed Initiative
- Father of modern tomato breeding
- PFAF Entry on Tomatoes
Seed Suppliers who carry Dwarf Tomatoes in the US
- Victory Seed Company
- Heritage Seed Market
- Tatianas Tomato Base
- Sample Seed Shop
- Tomatofest
- Fruition Seeds
Thanks for listening, you can contact the show at http://www.teajaysgarden.com/.
I apologize in advance for the audio quality of this episode. I was dealing with a dodgy microphone and some parts of my audio has static, but this is only here and there during the interview and its otherwise acceptable. I have it fixed, it won't continue into future episodes.
In this episode I give an overview of the domesticated tomato, my feelings on the term "Heirloom", I have a talk with Patrina Nuske Small and Craig LeHoullier about Dwarf Tomatoes, and I review Craigs book Epic Tomatoes.
Here are some tomato varieties mentioned in the Interview Portion
- Wherokowhai pronounced fer-dow-co-fi
- Uluru Ochre
- Kangaroo Paw Red
- Sweet Scarlet Dwarf
- Dwarf Golden Gypsy
- Dwarf Firebird Sweet
- Dwarf Wild Fred
Craig LeHoullier and Patrina Small links
- Epic Tomatoes
- Dwarf Tomato Project
- S2E4 THE DWARF TOMATO PROJECT -- FREE THE SEED! PODCAST
- Tomato grower Petrina Nuske Small, from south-east NSW, talks about the new tomato variety she has bred.
General Links
- Seed Savers Exchange
- Tomatoville
- Open Source Seed Initiative
- Father of modern tomato breeding
- PFAF Entry on Tomatoes
Seed Suppliers who carry Dwarf Tomatoes in the US
- Victory Seed Company
- Heritage Seed Market
- Tatianas Tomato Base
- Sample Seed Shop
- Tomatofest
- Fruition Seeds
Thanks for listening, you can contact the show at http://www.teajaysgarden.com/.
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Suzy Buttress Interview, The Learning Garden, Straw Bale Gardening
This week I get into my year at the Learning Garden, have a great chat with Suzy Buttress of The Casual Birder Podcast, and I review a couple of books on Straw Bale Gardening. I have to apologize, near the end of the Podcast accidentally called Patrina Small by the name Patricia.
After speaking with Suzy Buttress I was still unable to work out the hawk that made an unscheduled appearance in the podcast, but in the process I did stumble onto All About Birds. Its linked to the Cornell Universities Merlin App database. Here is a link to her appearance on the Hummingbirds Episode of the Varmints Podcast.
Here are the birds mentioned in the interview care of All About Birds.
- Collared Doves
- White Winged Pigeons
- Sharp Shinned Hawk
- Coopers Hawk
- Morning Dove
- Black Phoebe
- Californian Towhee
And here are some links to other things mentioned in the interview.
- Humming Bird Calls
- Structural Color
- Aotearoa's extinct bird calls
- Thousands Of Feral Lime Green Parakeets Call Bakersfield Home
- Silent Spring
Wrapping up the podcast I review the following books.
- Straw Bale Gardens Complete, Updated Edition: Breakthrough Method for Growing Vegetables Anywhere, Earlier and with No Weeding 2nd Edition by Joel Karsten
- Growing Vegetables in Straw Bales: Easy Planting, Less Weeding, Early Harvests. A Storey BASICS® Title Paperback by Craig LeHoullier
Thanks for listening, you can contact the show at http://www.teajaysgarden.com/.
Next Episode

Interview with Sebastian Cocioba of New York Botanics LLC
For week 44 of the gardening year I’m interviewing a longtime friend of mine Sebastian Cocioba owner of New York Botanics LLC and atinygreencell on Instagram. Sebastian is a “bio hacker” who’s goal is to increase the general level of education about Genetics technologies.
A few things. First, I’ve tweaked the show format, moving to a single segment a week. Trying to squeeze in three segments every episode just wasn’t possible with the current demands on my time. I also apologize that there was no Week 43, I had been out with a minor back injury and producing that week was clobbered by my return to work. The audio quality bounces around just a little bit, I have to replace a piece of equipment so hopefully I’ll have this resolved in time for the next show.
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