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Five by Five | The Podcast for The ALPA Pilots of Frontier Airlines, We Hear You Loud and Clear - Railway Labor Act | How Pilot-Coordinated Self-Help Actions Can Harm Negotiations

Railway Labor Act | How Pilot-Coordinated Self-Help Actions Can Harm Negotiations

04/28/23 • 30 min

Five by Five | The Podcast for The ALPA Pilots of Frontier Airlines, We Hear You Loud and Clear

On this episode of Five by Five host Jason DuVernay and Gary Michalk from the Negotiating Committee introduce a conversation between Delta Air Lines First Officer Ryan Argenta and Attorney Marcus Migliore. Marcus has nearly 30 years of experience with ALPA and currently serves as General Counsel & Director, Legal Department.

Ryan and Marcus discuss the implications of the Railway Labor Act (RLA) on Section 6 negotiations and how pilot-coordinated self-help actions can adversely derail progress at the table. Digging into a number of cases where pilot actions, such as refusing to pick up open time trips, premium trips, and coordinating sick outs we learn about court actions and stiff sanctions for individual pilots and the union. We learn what self-help actions pilots can take under the RLA and how pilot unity, wearing lanyards, and informational picketing make a huge impact at the negotiating table. As things heat up in negotiations and this summer, Mr. Migliore explains how important it is for ALPA pilots to keep cool, follow the rules and laws imposed by the RLA, and let ALPA and elected representatives follow the defined flow process. (Recorded June 9, 2022)

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Time Stamps

01:57 - Understanding Marcus and his ALPA involvement

04:23 - Why you should not engage in illegal work actions

06:42 - Importance of Unity

08:33 - Protections provided by the RLA

10:41 - Begining of Delta Podcast: 'Status Quo'

14:37 - What if management violates 'Status Quo'

16:30 - Previous 'Status Quo' violations and their resulting penalties

18:20 - Dangers of 'grass-roots' work actions

20:26 - Digital Trails

22:50 - Individual pilot penalization in previous cases

23:47 - Does the RLA need to be changed or updated?

26:05 - Meaningful and proper actions

27:45 - Using the current environment to our advantage

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On this episode of Five by Five host Jason DuVernay and Gary Michalk from the Negotiating Committee introduce a conversation between Delta Air Lines First Officer Ryan Argenta and Attorney Marcus Migliore. Marcus has nearly 30 years of experience with ALPA and currently serves as General Counsel & Director, Legal Department.

Ryan and Marcus discuss the implications of the Railway Labor Act (RLA) on Section 6 negotiations and how pilot-coordinated self-help actions can adversely derail progress at the table. Digging into a number of cases where pilot actions, such as refusing to pick up open time trips, premium trips, and coordinating sick outs we learn about court actions and stiff sanctions for individual pilots and the union. We learn what self-help actions pilots can take under the RLA and how pilot unity, wearing lanyards, and informational picketing make a huge impact at the negotiating table. As things heat up in negotiations and this summer, Mr. Migliore explains how important it is for ALPA pilots to keep cool, follow the rules and laws imposed by the RLA, and let ALPA and elected representatives follow the defined flow process. (Recorded June 9, 2022)

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Time Stamps

01:57 - Understanding Marcus and his ALPA involvement

04:23 - Why you should not engage in illegal work actions

06:42 - Importance of Unity

08:33 - Protections provided by the RLA

10:41 - Begining of Delta Podcast: 'Status Quo'

14:37 - What if management violates 'Status Quo'

16:30 - Previous 'Status Quo' violations and their resulting penalties

18:20 - Dangers of 'grass-roots' work actions

20:26 - Digital Trails

22:50 - Individual pilot penalization in previous cases

23:47 - Does the RLA need to be changed or updated?

26:05 - Meaningful and proper actions

27:45 - Using the current environment to our advantage

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undefined - Informed Bargaining | Meet Your Negotiating Committee

Informed Bargaining | Meet Your Negotiating Committee

Host Jason DuVernay sits down with your Negotiating Committee (NC) chairman and members to discuss our upcoming Section 6 negotiation process.

Chair Captain Jim Lally, Captain Mark Manausa, and Captain Gary Michalk chat with Jason about early openers, surveys, communications, pay disparity, your participation and more.

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Time Stamps

03:05 - Introductions and background of the committee members

07:41 - How to engage with the NC through your representatives

09:59 - How the negotiation process has changed now that ALPA has been fully implemented

15:10 - What is an Early opener?

15:55 - Professional help; negotiating with an experienced team

17:44 - How committees contribute to the negotiation process

19:32 - Where does the negotiating team draw their direction from?

28:32 - How to bake a "negotiation pie"

29:52 - Addressing pay disparity

35:52 - Contract Compliance

37:02 - Does flying for an Ultra-Low-Cost-Carrier mean we should expect less?

38:06 - Scope

40:28 - Communications from the committee

44:12 - Being Professional

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undefined - Set Condition | Unstacking Your PBS Bid

Set Condition | Unstacking Your PBS Bid

Captain Jason DuVernay sits down with PBS Chairman, Captain Matt Pease and PBS Committee Member, Captain Dave Coons to discuss our NavBlue PBS System. This wide-ranging conversation covers questions for novice and expert bidders. Common mistakes, vacation intricacies, and training bids are a small part of what we cover. Learn how to better avoid redeyes, maximize your vacation months and make PBS work for you.

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Time Stamps

00:47 - What does the PBS Committee do?

01:38 - How the PBS Committee is involved in bid runs

02:24 - Committee input on pairing construction

03:09 - Using the Dart system properly

04:43 - How PBS is different from our old process

05:47 - Transparency in the bidding process

07:19 - Unstacking/Coverage - How it works and who it effects

09:18 - Biggest mistakes, setting a backstop

12:01 - Avoiding redeye flights

13:26 - Waiving

15:05 - Denial mode

15:53 - The importance of proper negative bid preferences

16:38 - Understanding credit windows

18:43 - Transitioning from one bid group to another

20:18 - Training videos on ALPA website

21:00 - "RLL" Reduced Lower Limit Lines

22:38 - Importance of default bid

23:30 - Syncing more than two bid periods and why you might want to do it

25:38 - How reserve bidding works

31:44 - Pattern bidding, common mistakes leading to frustration

34:05 - Vacation Adjustment Period

39:25 - Vacation Any and further sliding in NavBlue

44:14 - Bidding for training

49:27 - What Golden Days are and how they work

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