
3. Displaying People
02/04/22 • 34 min
Fingerprints Episode 3
Mallica Kumbera Landrus, the Ashmolean’s Keeper of Eastern Art, takes us on a journey with 200 clay figures from India, displayed alongside a human zoo at the Colonial and India Exhibition of 1886, and later used to teach young British colonial officers at Oxford’s Indian Institute. Find a transcript of this episode here
Read more
- View images of some of the sculptures mentioned in the episode here
- Find out more about Ali Kazim’s exhibition at the Ashmolean here
Speakers in this episode:
- Series host: Lucie Dawkins, Director & Producer, Ashmolean Museum
- Professor Mallica Kumbera Landrus, Keeper of Eastern Art at the Ashmolean
- Ali Kazim, one of Pakistan’s leading contemporary artists whose work will be on show in the Ashmolean from 7 February 2022
- Dr Nayanika Mathur, Associate Professor in the Anthropology of South Asia, University of Oxford
About the Fingerprints podcast
Every object in the Ashmolean has passed from hand to hand to reach the Museum. In a new podcast, we uncover the invisible fingerprints left behind by makers, looters, archaeologists, soldiers, rulers, curators, and many more. These stories of touch reveal the ways in which the forces of conflict and colonialism have shaped Britain’s oldest Museum. Join the Ashmolean’s curators alongside artists, experts, and community members, for our new podcast: Fingerprints.
Fingerprints will be released on the Ashmolean’s website, on Spotify, Apple, and wherever you get your podcasts, weekly from 21 January 2022 until 25 February 2022.
Fingerprints is produced and hosted by Lucie Dawkins. Guests include Bénédicte Savoy, co-author of the Report on African Cultural Heritage, commissioned by Emmanuel Macron; Professor Dan Hicks, of Oxford’s Pitt Rivers Museum; and Simukai Chigudu, one of the founding members of the Rhodes Must Fall campaign.
www.ashmolean.org/fingerprints
Fingerprints Episode 3
Mallica Kumbera Landrus, the Ashmolean’s Keeper of Eastern Art, takes us on a journey with 200 clay figures from India, displayed alongside a human zoo at the Colonial and India Exhibition of 1886, and later used to teach young British colonial officers at Oxford’s Indian Institute. Find a transcript of this episode here
Read more
- View images of some of the sculptures mentioned in the episode here
- Find out more about Ali Kazim’s exhibition at the Ashmolean here
Speakers in this episode:
- Series host: Lucie Dawkins, Director & Producer, Ashmolean Museum
- Professor Mallica Kumbera Landrus, Keeper of Eastern Art at the Ashmolean
- Ali Kazim, one of Pakistan’s leading contemporary artists whose work will be on show in the Ashmolean from 7 February 2022
- Dr Nayanika Mathur, Associate Professor in the Anthropology of South Asia, University of Oxford
About the Fingerprints podcast
Every object in the Ashmolean has passed from hand to hand to reach the Museum. In a new podcast, we uncover the invisible fingerprints left behind by makers, looters, archaeologists, soldiers, rulers, curators, and many more. These stories of touch reveal the ways in which the forces of conflict and colonialism have shaped Britain’s oldest Museum. Join the Ashmolean’s curators alongside artists, experts, and community members, for our new podcast: Fingerprints.
Fingerprints will be released on the Ashmolean’s website, on Spotify, Apple, and wherever you get your podcasts, weekly from 21 January 2022 until 25 February 2022.
Fingerprints is produced and hosted by Lucie Dawkins. Guests include Bénédicte Savoy, co-author of the Report on African Cultural Heritage, commissioned by Emmanuel Macron; Professor Dan Hicks, of Oxford’s Pitt Rivers Museum; and Simukai Chigudu, one of the founding members of the Rhodes Must Fall campaign.
www.ashmolean.org/fingerprints
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2. The Looted Masks
Fingerprints Episode 2
Dan Hicks takes us on a journey with three bronze masks from the West African city of Benin, through the hands of soldiers, collectors, and curators, and along with special guests considers the responsibility that European museums have towards looted art in their collections. Find a transcript of this episode here
Read more
- View the masks spoken about in the episode here
- Read the Pitt Rivers’ interim report on the provenance of African cultural heritage in their collection here
- Find out more about the Benin Bronzes and the Benin Dialogue Group here
- Find out more about Oxford University’s procedures about the return of cultural objects here
- And find more about Dan Hicks' book, The Brutish Museums
Speakers in this episode:
- Series host: Lucie Dawkins, Director & Producer, Ashmolean Museum
- Xa Sturgis, Director of the Ashmolean Museum
- Simukai Chigudu, Professor of African Politics, University of Oxford and founding member of Rhodes Must Fall
- Dan Hicks, Professor of Contemporary Archaeology, Pitt Rivers Museum, Oxford
- Victor Ehikhamenor, artist
- Adenike Cosgrove, collector and historian of African Art Historian
- Professor Bénédicte Savoy, art historian and co-author of the report, The Restitution of African Cultural Heritage commissioned by President Emmanuel Macron
About the Fingerprints podcast
Every object in the Ashmolean has passed from hand to hand to reach the Museum. In a new podcast, we uncover the invisible fingerprints left behind by makers, looters, archaeologists, soldiers, rulers, curators, and many more. These stories of touch reveal the ways in which the forces of conflict and colonialism have shaped Britain’s oldest Museum. Join the Ashmolean’s curators alongside artists, experts, and community members, for our new podcast: Fingerprints.
Fingerprints will be released on the Ashmolean’s website, on Spotify, Apple, and wherever you get your podcasts, weekly from 21 January 2022 until 25 February 2022.
Fingerprints is produced and hosted by Lucie Dawkins. Guests include Bénédicte Savoy, co-author of the Report on African Cultural Heritage, commissioned by Emmanuel Macron; Professor Dan Hicks, of Oxford’s Pitt Rivers Museum; and Simukai Chigudu, one of the founding members of the Rhodes Must Fall campaign.
www.ashmolean.org/fingerprints
Next Episode

4. A King from the Trenches
Fingerprints Episode 4
Curator Paul Collins takes us on a journey with a 3000 year old king uncovered by an Indian soldier digging a trench in World War I, and explore what he has to tell us about the formation of Iraq as a nation state. Find a transcript of this episode here
Read more
Speakers in this episode:
- Series host: Lucie Dawkins, Director & Producer, Ashmolean Museum
- Dr Paul Collins, Curator of the Ancient Middle East, Ashmolean Museum
- Santanu Das, Professor of Modern Literature and Culture, University of Oxford
- Dr Mehiyar Kathem, Nahrein Network, UCL and Oxford, Researcher on cultural heritage in contemporary Iraq
About the Fingerprints podcast
Every object in the Ashmolean has passed from hand to hand to reach the Museum. In a new podcast, we uncover the invisible fingerprints left behind by makers, looters, archaeologists, soldiers, rulers, curators, and many more. These stories of touch reveal the ways in which the forces of conflict and colonialism have shaped Britain’s oldest Museum. Join the Ashmolean’s curators alongside artists, experts, and community members, for our new podcast: Fingerprints.
Fingerprints will be released on the Ashmolean’s website, on Spotify, Apple, and wherever you get your podcasts, weekly from 21 January 2022 until 25 February 2022.
Fingerprints is produced and hosted by Lucie Dawkins. Guests include Bénédicte Savoy, co-author of the Report on African Cultural Heritage, commissioned by Emmanuel Macron; Professor Dan Hicks, of Oxford’s Pitt Rivers Museum; and Simukai Chigudu, one of the founding members of the Rhodes Must Fall campaign.
www.ashmolean.org/fingerprints
Fingerprints - 3. Displaying People
Transcript
Mallica 00:00
I joined the museum in 2012, and a few months later visited one of our off site stores. There I found several large unopened crates. When I opened one of them I found these really delicately modelled clay figures, each one carefully wrapped individually. As I opened the lids of the other crates, I found more and more and more men, women, children, all sorts of trades, religious groups and ages from across the Indian subcontinent. By the end of that afternoo
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