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Feminine Chaos

Feminine Chaos

Phoebe Maltz Bovy and Kat Rosenfield

Problematic faves, dissident feminism, and poodle interruptions: this is Feminine Chaos, featuring cultural commentary from Phoebe Maltz Bovy and Kat Rosenfield.
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Goodpods has curated a list of the 10 best Feminine Chaos episodes, ranked by the number of listens and likes each episode have garnered from our listeners. If you are listening to Feminine Chaos for the first time, there's no better place to start than with one of these standout episodes. If you are a fan of the show, vote for your favorite Feminine Chaos episode by adding your comments to the episode page.

Feminine Chaos - Premium: Women Tripping Balls, Women Voting Walz
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11/01/24 • 15 min

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In our last episode before the election, Kat and Phoebe discuss mushroom mommies, Britcom asexuals, cryptopolitical lesbians, and secret apostrophes.

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Kat's investigative report:

The Middle-Class Women Who Are Tripping Balls | The Free Press

Phoebe's close read on Mrs. Councillor Nugent:

'Our forefathers practically went their entire lives without an...

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Feminine Chaos - Staying Together for the Squirrel
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11/05/24 • 52 min

Kat and Phoebe discuss the late-breaking squirrel murder that could unite the nation, the places you can't go on a first date, and... hmm. Is something else happening today?

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Government goons murder internet-famous squirrel

Who ratted out P’nut the squirrel? Grieving owners have their theory — and it’s a rich one

Kat (and other Free Press folks) on the symbols of the election:

First dates: it's Le Cirque or nothing:

https://x.com/bendreyfuss/status/1851756223185760668


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Feminine Chaos - Golden Terrorist Bachelor Paragliders
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10/15/23 • 46 min

Kat and Phoebe discuss war discourse and reality dating shows, which are, of course, basically the same thing.

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Leigh Stein on personal brands facing difficult times:

Phoebe on wishy-washy war commentary: https://thecjn.ca/perspectives/it-is-actually-fine-to-care-when-jews-are-killed-phoebe-maltz-bovy-on-tepid-responses-to-terror/

Kat on war discourse and civility: https://unherd.com/2023/10/can-the-pro-palestine-left-redeem-itself/

What's a keffiyeh? Wonder no more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_keffiyeh

Kat on reality-TV singles of the old and naked varieties:

The not-so-Golden Girls themselves: https://ew.com/tv/the-golden-bachelor-cast-contestants-women/


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In an extra-long, very special episode, Kat and Phoebe finish out the year with a retrospective on the death (or was it?) of journalism, a discussion of Soup Discourse, and a debate on the foolishness (or is it?) of tradwives.

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James Bennett's essay: When the New York Times lost its way

Phoebe on the death of swashbuckling:

Kat on tradwives...: The Paradoxical Freedom of Tradwife Tiktok

...and the cost of soup.

The origins of “Rosemary’s Bibi” in a single image:


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Feminine Chaos - Counting Bodies

Counting Bodies

Feminine Chaos

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09/09/23 • 43 min

Kat and Phoebe discuss body counts, TV nudity, and what you can do with a falafel in the shower.

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Phoebe on body count discourse:

"The question we must ask young women is this: who told you it was acceptable to have a high body count?"

https://twitter.com/Sargon_of_Akkad/status/1698099127467336124

The Clerks scene:

The falafel incident:

https://www.vice.com/en/article/evgxkw/remember-bill-oreillys-extreme-sexual-harassment-falafel-lawsuit-from-2004

The NYT on nudity:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/03/movies/nudity-onscreen-idol-oppenheimer.html


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Feminine Chaos - Premium: This Sundress Will Make You Pregnant
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06/12/24 • 11 min

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Kat and Phoebe discuss a traumatic tree takedown in Kat's neighborhood, a whisper network for women of a certain age, and a sundress that caused a civil war amongs online trad types. (Pictured: not the sundress, but a $10 doppelganger spotted in a local Charlotte Russe just hours after recording, which just goes to show... something.)

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Miranda July is...

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Feminine Chaos - NPR Voice in the Streets, Shock Jock in the Sheets
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04/22/24 • 57 min

Kat and Phoebe discuss a very horny theater critic, an uncommonly hot historian, and Uri Berliner's critique of NPR from inside the house.

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Lea Ypi: "Advice for scholars: next time you lecture on Kant and revolutions at “Downing” Cambridge, make sure your hair is neatly tied and that you’re not blonde. Or else your research impact will be on the @spectator libido section."

I’ve Been at NPR for 25 Years. Here’s How We Lost America’s Trust. | The Free Press

The Real Story Behind NPR's Current Problems

Emily Yoffe's reporting on l'affaire Sonmez: 'I'm Radioactive'

Washington Post reporter pleads with Felicia Sonmez to cease Twitter rants: 'Please stop'

Felicia Sonmez: Washington Post reporter fired after a week of feuding with colleagues | CNN Business

Kat and guest Amna Khalid discuss the Sonmez-Weigel conflict: https://femchaospod.substack.com/p/thats-not-funny

Jeet Heer pulls a “nobody is talking about this” and gets community noted:

https://twitter.com/HeerJeet/status/1780225893257945196


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Kat and Phoebe discuss a provocative underwear ad, a post-wall woman, and the stolen valor of a new book about fatphobia.

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Mr. Underpants

https://twitter.com/CalvinKlein/status/1742901431185584252

Soooo... what is that building back there? Does anyone know?

Phoebe on Mr. Underpants Senior:

Kat's review of Kate Manne’s Unshrinking (and why is Manne using “we” to describe the people who don’t fit in airplane seats?) : https://unherd.com/2024/01/fat-positivity-is-a-fantasy/


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Feminine Chaos - Premium: It's My Party and I'll DEI If I Want To
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10/19/24 • 13 min

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Kat and Phoebe discuss the big NYT expose on the death of DEI, the trap of self-mythologizing, and the mystery of the Democratic party's man problem.

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How DEI DIED: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/16/magazine/dei-university-michigan.html

Phoebe called this 1000 years ago:

https://x.com/BovyMaltz/status/1846729114541015289

The law school, THE LAW SCHOOL!

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Feminine Chaos - It's Desire, It's Divorce, It's De-Lovely
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02/18/24 • 66 min

Kat and Phoebe discuss a fun philosophical question about desire, a fine literary essay about not getting divorced, and the sacred gossip machine known as the whisper network.

Is it better to desire or be desired? Many journalists, etc weigh in: The Desire Question|Dirt

Emily Gould decompensates, turns decompensation into literature.

Should I Leave My Husband? The Lure of Divorce

The article shall be a book!

https://twitter.com/EmilyGouldNYmag/status/1757840399928844671

Phoebe on Emily Gould’s not-divorcing essay:

Phoebe on Emily Gould’s yes, divorcing crowdfunder that preceded it:

Kat on whisper networks and the women who whisper:


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How many episodes does Feminine Chaos have?

Feminine Chaos currently has 100 episodes available.

What topics does Feminine Chaos cover?

The podcast is about News, Society & Culture and Podcasts.

What is the most popular episode on Feminine Chaos?

The episode title 'Premium: Women Tripping Balls, Women Voting Walz' is the most popular.

What is the average episode length on Feminine Chaos?

The average episode length on Feminine Chaos is 45 minutes.

How often are episodes of Feminine Chaos released?

Episodes of Feminine Chaos are typically released every 12 days, 23 hours.

When was the first episode of Feminine Chaos?

The first episode of Feminine Chaos was released on Nov 30, 2020.

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