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Saddle up your ponies, put your feet in the syrups for these thrilling tales East Ghost vs. West Ghost in the battle for the town.

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Danno: Clare Sera. Our audience tonight is composed mostly of Cowboys and cow women. Cal people. And that's your naturally. And since you specialize in ghost towns of the old west, I thought we could probe your area of expertise.

Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls saddle up your ponies, put your feet in the syrup's because our guest today is Claire. Sarah, a world renowned expert in ghost towns of the old west Clare Sera. Welcome to the expert tests podcast.

That's exactly what I was hoping for was a little bit of that flavor, from the old times of the old west now, obviously the old west is a time that's far beyond any of us living today. What got you interested in such an unusual egg I'm like Hively.

Clare: Oh, that's actually, that could be a little bit of a possession Danno, when, when I was, but it'll, it'll come out, it'll come out. That's probably old Gabe Mackenzie,

Danno: Gabe McKinsey, the famous devil of desert Gulch.

Clare: desert Gulch.

And That's what he likes to create a gulping sound because.

Danno: what I felt in my throat was it felt like a Gulch.

Clare: yes. You had a Gulch in your throat. That's Gabes specialty. He's a prankster he's a funny prankster, but he has killed a few people.

Danno: you're telling me that the, a ghost of an old cowboy or a friendly prospect or something has actually literally in modern times taken the life of human people.

Clare: Well, you know, that's The funny thing that I have discovered in researching America's ghost hands. And we're talking about America's ghost towns, ghost towns of the old west where

the,

Danno: of America,

Clare: the old west of America on the Western part of America,

you

know,

Danno: Western part of the old west,

Clare: of the Wolf's westerly west ness

Danno: my understanding is the further west. You go, the more ghostly the ghost towns get.

Clare: Well, you have to be careful. If you go too far west, you end up east and the east coast towns. you don't want to have anything to do with those who

Danno: you got to stay on the right side of the gun.

Clare: Yeah. On the left to the right of the westerly Gulch towns, that's where you find your ghosts, Gerald cowboy, ghosts, Gerald, brothel, ladies, your snappy gold dig in Westie types that inhabit the ghost towns now to become a ghost.

You've got to have unfinished business in this

Danno: sure. So many people went out prospecting for. And failed. Does that count as unfinished business?

Clare: that is some of it, but I'm talking about business actual like business dealings, contracts, um, bank loans,

Danno: see mortgages.

Clare: buildings and loan

Danno: Okay.

These are surprisingly less terrifying ghost. And honestly, I was hoping for, what does it take for a ghost to be able to just sign a name one last time on a contract?

Clare: First of all, they have to find ink

Danno: Do they need to sign a physical contract in our realm with physical liquid ink? Okay. So finding ink doesn't sound like that. Big of a.

Clare: Well, where would you find Inc. Danno?

You're

not going to find Inc in a ghost town.

Danno: Oh, I didn't think about

that. Even the office supply stores of a ghost town are closed And ghostly,

Clare: so a lot of ghosts will spend their time trying to repurpose, ancient molecules of ink from the early days, which of course is still floating around. Do you know that everything is always floating around and all pieces of dead p...