
Ep. 176 - Throw back Episode - Mike Brown and Craig Douglas - Celebrating our Mentors
01/03/25 • 109 min
This show we do a throwback to our 100th episode where we talk with our two most important mentors ------
Our 100th show! We couldn't think of a better way to celebrate this milestone than by having our two most important mentors on the show: Mike Brown of the former Praesidium Group and Craig Douglas of Shivworks.
Topics: Meeting Mike in the mid 90s, how he became such an important coach and mentor to Eric and Aaron; how he pushed Eric join the TPI forums and to take ECQC. The Twins becoming a host to Craig for multiple classes through the years and how that relationship led to training with others in the Shivworks collective. TPI and its influence on the current multidisciplinary realm and how forums have transitioned to video and social media. Is this good/bad? Who are folks in this multidisciplinary realm whom both Craig and Mike recommend and what makes great instructors. Lastly, we talk a little gear, P365s, red dots, and some other fun topics to close out the show.
Previous appearances of Mike and Craig
Mike Brown Ep. 5
https://directory.libsyn.com/episode/index/show/evosec/id/10923969
Ep 45
https://directory.libsyn.com/episode/index/show/evosec/id/18674765
Craig’s Ep 13
https://directory.libsyn.com/episode/index/show/evosec/id/12326351
Ep 49
https://directory.libsyn.com/episode/index/show/evosec/id/19725887
Please subscribe and share our podcast with friends and family. Visit our website for bios, future events and info at www.evosec.org Like, follow and share us on Facebook and Instagram @evosecusa
WE ARE PUMPED TO HAVE A NEW AFFILIATE LINK FOR ORIGIN AND JOCKO FUEL!!! Help support this show by purchasing any of your JiuJitsu gear, Jocko Supplements, books clothing and more... link below.
Origin/Jocko Fuel – Bringing back American manufacturing, producing the best Jiu-Jitsu Gis on the market, Jeans, rash guards, and world class supplements to help you on the path. Use EvoSec10 at checkout for 10% off, this helps us greatly.
EVOSEC Originusa.com AFFILIATE LINK
Tenicor – www.tenicor.com they are educators, and innovators in the holster market. They are firearms instructors themselves, pressure testing their gear in multiple force on force events every year. We support those who do the work. Patronizing our sponsors helps us greatly so thank you in advance.
Evolution Security is Eric Davis, Aaron Davis and Brian Schilt; specializing in self-protection education, defensive pistol and carbine, consulting, and weapons based grappling. Their mission is to help those serious about protecting themselves and their loved ones, become more capable though filtered information, recommended study, and highlighting their mentors who are the best in the field. In addition, Eric and Aaron (twins) are musicians keeping with Musashi’s adage that martial artist should focus on art outside of the martial (bumper music recorded by the brothers).
This show we do a throwback to our 100th episode where we talk with our two most important mentors ------
Our 100th show! We couldn't think of a better way to celebrate this milestone than by having our two most important mentors on the show: Mike Brown of the former Praesidium Group and Craig Douglas of Shivworks.
Topics: Meeting Mike in the mid 90s, how he became such an important coach and mentor to Eric and Aaron; how he pushed Eric join the TPI forums and to take ECQC. The Twins becoming a host to Craig for multiple classes through the years and how that relationship led to training with others in the Shivworks collective. TPI and its influence on the current multidisciplinary realm and how forums have transitioned to video and social media. Is this good/bad? Who are folks in this multidisciplinary realm whom both Craig and Mike recommend and what makes great instructors. Lastly, we talk a little gear, P365s, red dots, and some other fun topics to close out the show.
Previous appearances of Mike and Craig
Mike Brown Ep. 5
https://directory.libsyn.com/episode/index/show/evosec/id/10923969
Ep 45
https://directory.libsyn.com/episode/index/show/evosec/id/18674765
Craig’s Ep 13
https://directory.libsyn.com/episode/index/show/evosec/id/12326351
Ep 49
https://directory.libsyn.com/episode/index/show/evosec/id/19725887
Please subscribe and share our podcast with friends and family. Visit our website for bios, future events and info at www.evosec.org Like, follow and share us on Facebook and Instagram @evosecusa
WE ARE PUMPED TO HAVE A NEW AFFILIATE LINK FOR ORIGIN AND JOCKO FUEL!!! Help support this show by purchasing any of your JiuJitsu gear, Jocko Supplements, books clothing and more... link below.
Origin/Jocko Fuel – Bringing back American manufacturing, producing the best Jiu-Jitsu Gis on the market, Jeans, rash guards, and world class supplements to help you on the path. Use EvoSec10 at checkout for 10% off, this helps us greatly.
EVOSEC Originusa.com AFFILIATE LINK
Tenicor – www.tenicor.com they are educators, and innovators in the holster market. They are firearms instructors themselves, pressure testing their gear in multiple force on force events every year. We support those who do the work. Patronizing our sponsors helps us greatly so thank you in advance.
Evolution Security is Eric Davis, Aaron Davis and Brian Schilt; specializing in self-protection education, defensive pistol and carbine, consulting, and weapons based grappling. Their mission is to help those serious about protecting themselves and their loved ones, become more capable though filtered information, recommended study, and highlighting their mentors who are the best in the field. In addition, Eric and Aaron (twins) are musicians keeping with Musashi’s adage that martial artist should focus on art outside of the martial (bumper music recorded by the brothers).
Previous Episode

Ep. 175 - Dave "Boon" Benton - Threat Management Solutions Classes - Al-Qaeda Plot 2025
This show we have DB "Boon" Benton of Threat Management Solutions back on the show.
Threat Management Solutions, Dave Benton, Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania
Boon is a survivor of the 2012 Benghazi Al Qaeda attacks where he was one of the CIA GRS contractors who helped defend and evacuate personnel. Boon, Tyrone "Rone" Woods, Kris "Tanto" Paronto, Jack Silva, Mark "Oz" Geist, John "Tig" Tiegen and Glenn "Bub" Doherty working for GRS saved countless lives in these attacks. Unfortunately, Rone and Bub were both killed during their heroic acts. We also lost Ambassador Christorpher Stevens, and Communications Specialist Sean Smith. Their story was memorialized in the book and movie 13 Hours in Benghazi.
Boon is also co-author of the book, Benghazi Know thy Enemy with former CIA Targeting Officer Sarah Adams. DB is also a BJJ Black belt and an expert in the field of combatives. This show we talk details regarding some of the classes that he offers. A few discussed but not limited to, Low Signature Pistol, Close Range Engagement, and Concealed Defensive Carbine. A bonus discussion on Boon's preferred 556 and 300 BLK ammo was also very informative.
One really concerning topic Boon brought up was the uncovered Al-Qaeda US and Europe attacks that the terrorist organization intends to commit in 2025.
Books discussed:
Benghazi: Know Thy Enemy: Adams, Sarah, Benton, Dave: 9798986822105: Amazon.com: Books
WE ARE PUMPED TO HAVE A NEW AFFILIATE LINK FOR ORIGIN AND JOCKO FUEL!!! Help support this show by purchasing any of your JiuJitsu gear, Jocko Supplements, books clothing and more... link below.
Origin/Jocko Fuel – Bringing back American manufacturing, producing the best Jiu-Jitsu Gis on the market, Jeans, rash guards, and world class supplements to help you on the path. Use EvoSec10 at checkout for 10% off, this helps us greatly.
EVOSEC Originusa.com AFFILIATE LINK
Tenicor – www.tenicor.com they are educators, and innovators in the holster market. They are firearms instructors themselves, pressure testing their gear in multiple force on force events every year. We support those who do the work.
Please visit our new sponsor Training Ground at https://thetrainingground.life Training Ground offers top notch trianing in Jiu Jitsu, Judo, Tang Soo Do and Firearms. An environment where learning is paramount for both students and instructors.
Again, patronizing our sponsors helps us greatly.
Next Episode

Ep. 177 - Christmas Gifts – Right Wing Fitness – Al Qaeda 2.0 Attack
In this episode Eric and Aaron talk about some of the Christmas gifts they received, the lefts comparison of fitness with the right wing, and more info on the 2025 Al Qaeda attack plans.
Below are the main articles discussed.
Pandemic fitness trends have gone extreme — literally
The White Supremacist Origins of Exercise in the U.S. | TIME
WE ARE PUMPED TO HAVE A NEW AFFILIATE LINK FOR ORIGIN AND JOCKO FUEL!!! Help support this show by purchasing any of your JiuJitsu gear, Jocko Supplements, books clothing and more... link below.
Origin/Jocko Fuel – Bringing back American manufacturing, producing the best Jiu-Jitsu Gis on the market, Jeans, rash guards, and world class supplements to help you on the path. Use EvoSec10 at checkout for 10% off, this helps us greatly.
EVOSEC Originusa.com AFFILIATE LINK
Tenicor – www.tenicor.com they are educators, and innovators in the holster market. They are firearms instructors themselves, pressure testing their gear in multiple force on force events every year. We support those who do the work.
Please visit our new sponsor Training Ground at https://thetrainingground.life Training Ground offers top notch trianing in Jiu Jitsu, Judo, Tang Soo Do and Firearms. An environment where learning is paramount for both students and instructors.
Again, patronizing our sponsors helps us greatly.
If you like this episode you’ll love
Episode Comments
Generate a badge
Get a badge for your website that links back to this episode
<a href="https://goodpods.com/podcasts/evolution-security-podcast-512887/ep-176-throw-back-episode-mike-brown-and-craig-douglas-celebrating-our-81179893"> <img src="https://storage.googleapis.com/goodpods-images-bucket/badges/generic-badge-1.svg" alt="listen to ep. 176 - throw back episode - mike brown and craig douglas - celebrating our mentors on goodpods" style="width: 225px" /> </a>
Copy