
Richard Rohr: Learning to Hold On, Learning to Let Go
11/09/21 • 38 min
Life is painful. Period. But are there some aspects of our faith or our posture toward the world that can change how we experience it?
Father Richard Rohr is everyone’s favorite preacher of love. Love for each other. Love from God.
In this conversation, Kate and Richard talk about:
- How great love and great suffering can move us into a new stage of life
- The spirituality of subtraction
- Making room for mystery of joy and suffering
- His secret to staying present to God
Together, might we all learn when to hold on and when to let go.
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Life is painful. Period. But are there some aspects of our faith or our posture toward the world that can change how we experience it?
Father Richard Rohr is everyone’s favorite preacher of love. Love for each other. Love from God.
In this conversation, Kate and Richard talk about:
- How great love and great suffering can move us into a new stage of life
- The spirituality of subtraction
- Making room for mystery of joy and suffering
- His secret to staying present to God
Together, might we all learn when to hold on and when to let go.
***
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Be sure to subscribe to my weekly email for bits of wisdom, prayers, free downloads, and more.
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CW: suicide, depression, mental illness
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