
EA 21 - Kipchoge Spencer on the 3.5% threshold, pedal powered music, and community vibes
Explicit content warning
10/28/19 • 62 min
62’
Intro
~1-3’ we couldn’t get the song on, but check them out here: https://soundcloud.com/gingerninjas
Interview
~4’ who is anyone to own the earth?
~6’ embracing the hypocrisy
~8’ acting as custodians of the land
~11’ how to build community? be neighbors
~13’ the cob workshop community lessons
~16’ the people power theory
~17’ the balance of doing good for the earth + having fun
~18’ how an environmental activist is born
~21’ the napkin revolt*
*Kipchoge and Claire’s son story comes in here as a side note because Claire was in the kitchen but not mic’d
~22’ bikes as and eco mode of transport
~24’ the beginnings of xtracycle, circa ‘98:
~27’ the xtracyle ‘thing’ – trying to create environ change with a company
~30’ the dream is hatched of a bike powered music tour
~32’ Kipchoge's friend's band:
https://shakeyourpeace.bandcamp.com/
~33’ 15 people take off and create the first ever bike powered rock n’ roll tour, aka 'rock the bike':
https://rockthebike.com/the-ginger-ninjas/
~35’ Kipchoge and the Ginger Ninjas, soundcloud:
https://soundcloud.com/gingerninjas
~37’ 8 bike tours later, a few takeaways
~41’ a traveling band story, ohhhh Mexico!
~46’ an epiphany at Vipassana, the site:
https://www.dhamma.org/en-US/index
~47’ a turn in the road, Kipchoge stops playing to gather people power and tackle the climate fight
~48’ an education on building a social change movement
~49’ there are way more than enough people to get this done
~50’ non-violent social movements, Erica Chenoweth inspires:
https://www.ericachenoweth.com/research/wcrw
~53’ would you quit Amazon if others did? a campaign for 1M customers to leave; testing the hypothesis
https://threshold.us/c/cancelprime
~54’ why Amazon? lifting the curtain on the dangers
~58’ the movement, building up to the 3.5% change, and 6 focus areas:
~60’ the internet is not bad, just the bad actors, and Derek is ok, thank yous...
62’
Intro
~1-3’ we couldn’t get the song on, but check them out here: https://soundcloud.com/gingerninjas
Interview
~4’ who is anyone to own the earth?
~6’ embracing the hypocrisy
~8’ acting as custodians of the land
~11’ how to build community? be neighbors
~13’ the cob workshop community lessons
~16’ the people power theory
~17’ the balance of doing good for the earth + having fun
~18’ how an environmental activist is born
~21’ the napkin revolt*
*Kipchoge and Claire’s son story comes in here as a side note because Claire was in the kitchen but not mic’d
~22’ bikes as and eco mode of transport
~24’ the beginnings of xtracycle, circa ‘98:
~27’ the xtracyle ‘thing’ – trying to create environ change with a company
~30’ the dream is hatched of a bike powered music tour
~32’ Kipchoge's friend's band:
https://shakeyourpeace.bandcamp.com/
~33’ 15 people take off and create the first ever bike powered rock n’ roll tour, aka 'rock the bike':
https://rockthebike.com/the-ginger-ninjas/
~35’ Kipchoge and the Ginger Ninjas, soundcloud:
https://soundcloud.com/gingerninjas
~37’ 8 bike tours later, a few takeaways
~41’ a traveling band story, ohhhh Mexico!
~46’ an epiphany at Vipassana, the site:
https://www.dhamma.org/en-US/index
~47’ a turn in the road, Kipchoge stops playing to gather people power and tackle the climate fight
~48’ an education on building a social change movement
~49’ there are way more than enough people to get this done
~50’ non-violent social movements, Erica Chenoweth inspires:
https://www.ericachenoweth.com/research/wcrw
~53’ would you quit Amazon if others did? a campaign for 1M customers to leave; testing the hypothesis
https://threshold.us/c/cancelprime
~54’ why Amazon? lifting the curtain on the dangers
~58’ the movement, building up to the 3.5% change, and 6 focus areas:
~60’ the internet is not bad, just the bad actors, and Derek is ok, thank yous...
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EA 20 - Claudine Desiree aka the Cob Queen
69'
Introduction
~0’-2 what I’ve been up to
Interview
~5’ Claudine and NYC John Lennon story
~8’ growing up in Manhattan, UWS!
~10’ backstory; parents flee Nazi Germany
~13’ Claudine’s workshop
~14’ what ‘cob building’ is
http://www.cobtherapy.com/cobbuilding
https://www.thoughtco.com/what-is-a-cob-house-177944
~19’ the economics of cob; sourcing materials
~23’ you can do whatever you want with cob, and be an artist
~24’ how Claudine came to cob, and cob came to her
~25’ Occidental Arts Ecology Center:
https://oaec.org/our-work/projects-and-partnerships/permaculture/
~29’ 'The Hand Sculpted House', by Micheal Smith, Ianto Evans, Linda Smiley
https://www.abebooks.com/book-search/title/the-hand-sculpted-house/
~32’ entrepreneurial dragons
~33’ the cob workshop model
~34’ Claudine sells the cob for an international bike tour
~35’ Chris Panasky podcast:
http://biketouradventures.com/
~37’ Santa Cruz, CA
~39’ Marianne Williamson’s books and healing:
~41’ Claudine’s awakening; Al-Anon
~42’ Esalen workshops; Qi-gong
https://www.nqa.org/what-is-qigong-
~45’ Claudine finds a workshop partner on:
~50’ the personal growth aspect to Claudine’s workshops
~53’ when workshops go off; the Azores story
~58’ summary and what’s next for CruzinCob; Asia, TV shows:
~65’ https://www.diynetwork.com/shows/building-off-the-grid-1
~66’ @cruzincobglobal on IG; youtube:
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EA 22 - 2020 Vision: Derek reflects on the podcast journey and what's next
19m
~1’ what’s up with the podcast, where ya’ been?
~3’ to enlighten or not to enlighten, that is the question
~4’ links to the last 6 months' experiences:
Vipassana 10 day silent mediation retreat:
https://www.dhamma.org/en-US/index
Cob building courses:
200 hour YTT course in San Cristobal de las Casas, MX
https://www.facebook.com/VinyasaOM/
My YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SZJbqqye-I
~5’ ‘the last thing I’ll share’, but I actually share another thing later, tips on taking the plunge, traveling on a budget
~8’ legal plant medicine retreat in Ecuador:
~10’ how to design your dream year:
based on Tim Ferris’ 80/20 year review to manifest a great New Year:
https://tim.blog/2016/12/29/2016-what-ive-learned/
~15’ post interview mantra by:
https://www.marianandayoga.com/ & Derek Straat
https://www.bhaktibreakfastclub.com/mantraglossary40
A loose translation of the mantra:
Jai Mata Kali Jai Mata Durga – victory and praise to the divine feminine Kali and Durga energies, and they both bring in different forces. Kali is traditionally the harsh change, who brings in the new with her destruction, whereas Durga is the gentle mother who holds all. Couldn’t hurt for 2020, well maybe a little but we will be better for it, so enjoy!
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