
How Section 230 Promotes Competition, With Jessica Ashooh
03/10/21 • 21 min
Jessica Ashooh, Director of Policy at Reddit, joins Ellysse and Ashley to explore the impact of Section 230 on small to mid-sized companies and explain its importance for innovation and competition in the Internet economy.
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- Emily Birnbaum, “Reddit worries it’s going to be crushed in the fight against Big Tech,” Protocol, October 28, 2020.
Jessica Ashooh, Director of Policy at Reddit, joins Ellysse and Ashley to explore the impact of Section 230 on small to mid-sized companies and explain its importance for innovation and competition in the Internet economy.
Mentioned
Related
- Emily Birnbaum, “Reddit worries it’s going to be crushed in the fight against Big Tech,” Protocol, October 28, 2020.
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How Section 230 Shapes Content Moderation, With Daphne Keller
Daphne Keller, platform regulation expert at Stanford University and former Associate General Counsel for Google, joins Ellysse and Ashley to explain Section 230’s role in shaping how large companies approach content moderation on a massive scale, and how intermediary liability protections allow platforms of all sizes to thrive.
Mentioned
- Jennifer M. Urban, Joe Karaganis, and Brianna L. Shofield, Notice and Takedown in Everyday Practice(Berkeley Law, 2016).
- Maarten Sap et al., “The Risk of Racial Bias in Hate Speech Detection,” Proceedings of the 57th Annual Meeting of the Association for Computational Linguistics (2019): 1668-78.
- Thomas Davidson, Debasmita Bhattacharya, and Ingmar Weber, “Racial Bias in Hate Speech and Abusive Language Detection Datasets,” Proceedings of the Third Workshop on Abusive Language Online (2019): 25-35.
- “H.R.1865 - Allow States and Victims to Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act of 2017,” Congress.gov.
- Woodhull Freedom Foundation v. United States, No. 18-5298 (D.C. Cir. 2020).
- Daphne Keller, “SESTA and the Teachings of Intermediary Liability” (The Center for Internet and Society, November 2017).
- Daphne Keller, “For platform regulation Congress should use a European cheat sheet,” The Hill, January 15, 2021.
- Renee Diresta, “Free Speech Is Not the Same As Free Reach,” Wired, August 30, 2018.
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A News Media Perspective on Section 230, With David Chavern
David Chavern, CEO of a news industry trade association representing nearly 2,000 publishers, joins Ellysse and Ashley to discuss the impact of Section 230 on traditional media and the spread of misinformation, as well as how the news industry handles the issue of intermediary liability.
Mentioned
- David Chavern, “The News Media and Section 230,” News Media Alliance, February 19, 2020.
- David Chavern, “Section 230 Is a Government License to Build Rage Machines,” Wired, September 14, 2020.
- Sacha Baron Cohen, “Sacha Baron Cohen’s Keynote Address at ADL’s 2019 Never Is Now Summit on Anti-Semitism and Hate,” ADL, November 21, 2019.
- “H.R.8636 - Protecting Americans from Dangerous Algorithms Act,” Congress.gov.
- Roger McNamee, “Facebook Cannot Fix Itself. But Trump’s Effort to Reform Section 230 Is Wrong,” TIME, June 4, 2020.
Related
- Ashley Johnson and Daniel Castro, “Fact-Checking the Critiques of Section 230: What Are the Real Problems?” (ITIF, February 2021).
Ellysse and Ashley Break the Internet - How Section 230 Promotes Competition, With Jessica Ashooh
Transcript
Jessica Ashooh: That’s what we’re talking about when we say that something stifles innovation, is it takes resources that could be developing a platform and developing safety tools, and it just sends them to lawyers.
Ellysse Dick: Welcome to Ellysse and Ashley Break the Internet, a series where we’re exploring the ins and outs of Section 230, the law that has defined content moderation for platforms big and small for over 20 years. I’m Ellysse Di
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