
Back to when it all started: Get back!
10/20/23 • 37 min
The recent congress in Oslo was a huge success. We were very glad to catch up with colleagues and hear about some really excellent science. We also bumped into Steve Wong and Phil Walson, first and third presidents of the IATDMCT, and we were delighted they obliged us with an interview about the origins of the Association.
Like with any good origin story, Steve and Phil are true superheroes. Both have held numerous leadership positions in their professions and in professional associations, achieved international cooperation agreements, and advocated nationally and internationally for the quality use of medicines.
We were so wrapped in this interview, that we totally forgot to ask Steve and Phil what their favourite Beatles are - we’ll just have to have them (Get) back!
In this episode we hear about:
- the history and development of the Association, its early years and key figures that contributed to its success
- the first meetings in Osaka and Chicago, that were followed by the inaugural IATDMCT event in Barcelona
- the organization's international representation and camaraderie among members
- the dedication to being international from the start and an emphasis on supporting young scientists
- the origins and developments of the TDM Journal
Eight Drugs a Week is supported by the International Association of Therapeutic Drug Monitoring and Clinical Toxicology (IATDMCT). The personal views of the hosts and guests do not necessarily reflect the position of the Association.
To join IATDMCT, visit https://www.iatdmct.org/member-join
Subscribe to Eight Drugs a Week on your preferred podcast platform.
About our guests:
Steve is professor of pathology, director of the clinical chemistry and toxicology laboratory, and co-director of the Clinical and Translational Mass Spectrometry Center at the Wake Forest School of Medicine in Winston-Salem, North Carolina.
Phil is a Paediatrician, Clinical Pharmacologist, and Medical Toxicologist, was Director of the Clinical Pharmacology Division of the Cincinnati Children's Hospital and is a visiting Professor at the Georg-August-Universitat Medical School, Goettingen, Germany.
The recent congress in Oslo was a huge success. We were very glad to catch up with colleagues and hear about some really excellent science. We also bumped into Steve Wong and Phil Walson, first and third presidents of the IATDMCT, and we were delighted they obliged us with an interview about the origins of the Association.
Like with any good origin story, Steve and Phil are true superheroes. Both have held numerous leadership positions in their professions and in professional associations, achieved international cooperation agreements, and advocated nationally and internationally for the quality use of medicines.
We were so wrapped in this interview, that we totally forgot to ask Steve and Phil what their favourite Beatles are - we’ll just have to have them (Get) back!
In this episode we hear about:
- the history and development of the Association, its early years and key figures that contributed to its success
- the first meetings in Osaka and Chicago, that were followed by the inaugural IATDMCT event in Barcelona
- the organization's international representation and camaraderie among members
- the dedication to being international from the start and an emphasis on supporting young scientists
- the origins and developments of the TDM Journal
Eight Drugs a Week is supported by the International Association of Therapeutic Drug Monitoring and Clinical Toxicology (IATDMCT). The personal views of the hosts and guests do not necessarily reflect the position of the Association.
To join IATDMCT, visit https://www.iatdmct.org/member-join
Subscribe to Eight Drugs a Week on your preferred podcast platform.
About our guests:
Steve is professor of pathology, director of the clinical chemistry and toxicology laboratory, and co-director of the Clinical and Translational Mass Spectrometry Center at the Wake Forest School of Medicine in Winston-Salem, North Carolina.
Phil is a Paediatrician, Clinical Pharmacologist, and Medical Toxicologist, was Director of the Clinical Pharmacology Division of the Cincinnati Children's Hospital and is a visiting Professor at the Georg-August-Universitat Medical School, Goettingen, Germany.
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Personalized Under The Northern Sky! (IATDMCT Oslo 2023): Norwegian Wood
In this bonus episode, we delve into the upcoming IATDMCT congress that will take place September 24th to 27th in Oslo, Norway . It promises to be an exciting event with varied and highly novel sessions. Joining us today are esteemed IATDMCT scientists and local members of the congress organizing committee: Stein Bergan, Ida Robertson, and Anders Åsberg.
We delve into their motivations to host the congress and discuss the inspiration behind the theme: 'Personalized under the Northern Sky.' Our guests elaborate on how they will weave this overarching theme through the whole event. We explore some captivating sessions featured on the program, including therapeutic use of orellanine mushroom toxin, TDM of statins, acyclovir & ganciclovir, tacrolimus, microsampling approaches and hands-on sessions. Additionally, we cover the educational initiatives designed specifically for Young Scientists.
Prepare for an enriching experience filled not only with valuable scientific knowledge but also a great deal of fun. If that's not enough, get ready for some thrilling activities like running and the Holmenkollen Ski Jump. Register for the congress today!
In this episode we hear about:
● IATDMCT Oslo 2023: introducing our committee members ● The motivation behind the congress theme: Personalized Under the Northern Sky ● What’s in it for me? Why attend the Oslo congress. ● Double the usual number of plenaries, including one about the therapeutic use of orellanine mushroom toxin ● Hands-on pre-congress event: deep-dive into microsampling approaches to enhance clinical applications and research efforts ● Educational initiatives for Young Scientists ● Satisfying all your needs: networking opportunities, the social program and unique activities only Oslo can offer
Eight Drugs a Week is supported by the International Association of Therapeutic Drug Monitoring and Clinical Toxicology (IATDMCT). The personal views of the hosts and guests do not necessarily reflect the position of the Association. To join IATDMCT, visit https://www.iatdmct.org/member-join Subscribe to Eight Drugs a Week on your preferred podcast platform.
About our guests:
Stein Bergan Congress Chair. Group leader at the precision pharmacotherapy research group of Oslo University Hospital, Dept of Pharmacology. He is also a professor of the department of Pharmacy at University of Oslo
Ida Robertson Associate Professor at the department of Pharmacy at University of Oslo and a member of the Pharmacokinetics Research Group.
Anders Åsberg Head of the laboratory for renal physiology at Oslo University Hospital and adjunct Professor of the department of Pharmacy at University of Oslo.
Next Episode

Got to get microsampling into my life: Got to get you into my life!
This episode is about a fairly recent development in TDM and clinical toxicology that has huge potential, which has actually been used for many decades. It was recently the 50th anniversary of the Guthrie method, where dried blood spots are used to screen inborn errors of metabolism in neonatal infants. Thanks to instrumental developments, dried blood spots, and more generally microsampling approaches, have been increasingly applied to quantify a wide range of drug entities. Although these approaches offer plenty of novel opportunities in our field, they are not without challenges and pitfalls.
Our guests today are two of the biggest names in microsampling – and also absolute IATDMCT VIPs and legends. We are joined by our current president, Jan-Willem Alffenaar, and president-elect, Christophe Stove, for deep dive on the topic.
In this episode we hear about:
• Which Beatle might be the most interesting test subject for microsampling evaluation
• How low can you go? When does it become a macrosample?
• Diverse microsampling approaches: dry, wet, different matrices
• Go robust – or go home
• Obvious, and not-so-obvious challenges; typical and very novel solutions
• Clinical, toxicological and research applications: what the innovators are doing, and potential for even greater global impact
• How many times would you prick your finger in a day? The sweet spot in being informative, but not terrible for patients
• From the Beatles to ABBA: money, money, money and the place of microsapmpling in health systems
Eight Drugs a Week is supported by the International Association of Therapeutic Drug Monitoring and Clinical Toxicology (IATDMCT). The personal views of the hosts and guests do not necessarily reflect the position of the Association.
To join IATDMCT, visit https://www.iatdmct.org/member-join
Subscribe to Eight Drugs a Week on your preferred podcast platform.
About our guests:
Jan-Willem is Professor of Clinical Pharmacology at The University of Sydney, and Chair of Clinical Pharmacy at Westmead Hospital, in Sydney Australia.
Christophe Stove is Professor, and director of the toxicology laboratory, at the Department of Bioanalysis, at Gent University in Belgium.
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