74. From Fringe to Frontier: Material Futures from UAP

01/22/25 • 69 min

Stanford professor Dr. Garry Nolan reveals how UAP observations should refactor our approach to materials science. In this compelling episode, Dr. Nolan demonstrates how studying anomalous phenomena provides unprecedented insights, reshaping materials research and development. Drawing from his pioneering work in biotechnology and advanced analysis, he illustrates why incorporating UAP insights could accelerate technological breakthroughs in many domains and transform our understanding of what's possible.

Key insights:

How UAP research informs next-generation materials development
Advanced analysis techniques revealing new scientific possibilities
The convergence of materials science and anomalous phenomena
Strategic implications for technological leadership
Breakthrough private sector opportunities in UAP-inspired research

Guest:

Garry Nolan, Founder, Apprise Biotech and Nodality; and Rachford and Carlota A. Harris Endowed Professor at Stanford

University

Co-Hosts:

Anna Brady-Estevez, Co-Chair US Interagency Space Economy & Advanced Manufacturing Working Groups

Larry Forsley, Chief Technology Officer of Global Energy Corporation

Dyan Finkhousen, CEO of Shoshin Works; Ecosystemic Model Advisor for NASA and Space Force

Series Hosts:

Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center

Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

Key insights:

How UAP research informs next-generation materials development
Advanced analysis techniques revealing new scientific possibilities
The convergence of materials science and anomalous phenomena
Strategic implications for technological leadership
Breakthrough private sector opportunities in UAP-inspired research

Guest:

Garry Nolan, Founder, Apprise Biotech and Nodality; and Rachford and Carlota A. Harris Endowed Professor at Stanford

University

Co-Hosts:

Anna Brady-Estevez, Co-Chair US Interagency Space Economy & Advanced Manufacturing Working Groups

Larry Forsley, Chief Technology Officer of Global Energy Corporation

Dyan Finkhousen, CEO of Shoshin Works; Ecosystemic Model Advisor for NASA and Space Force

Series Hosts:

Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center

Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

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73. From Taboo to Testimony: Technology, Citizen Science, and the Evolution of UAP Research with Leslie Kean, Ryan Graves, and Christine Kim

The landscape of UAP research has transformed dramatically over the past two decades from a taboo topic to congressional testimony. In this pivotal episode, pioneering investigative journalist Leslie Kean bridges past discoveries with current developments, including the latest wave of mass sightings across multiple states. Featuring crucial insights from former Navy pilot Ryan Graves and Enigma Labs' Christine Kim, this conversation reveals how civilian science, military observation, and professional investigation converge to understand these mysterious phenomena.

Highlights:

Leslie Kean shares how she broke the UFO story in the Boston Globe (2000) and the historical challenges of reporting on UAP
Discussion of current mass sightings across multiple states, with detailed analysis of patterns and characteristics
Ryan Graves provides perspective on commercial pilot reports and military observations
Enigma Labs reveals data from 28,000+ civilian sightings, discussing patterns in recent mass sighting events
Exploration of how UAP research has evolved from individual sightings to systematic investigation
Analysis of current challenges in tracking and identifying unexplained aerial phenomena
Discussion of the intersection between civilian reporting, military investigation, scientific research, and technological advancement

This episode offers essential context for understanding one of today's most significant scientific mysteries, combining historical perspective with breaking developments in UAP research and observation.

Join us for this exceptional discussion.

Featured Guests

Leslie Kean - Pioneering Investigative Journalist, New York Times Bestselling Author

Ryan Graves - Former Navy Fighter Pilot, Executive Director of Americans for Safe Aerospace

Christine Kim - Head of Marketing, Enigma Labs

Co-Hosts

Anna Brady-Estevez, Co-Chair US Interagency Space Economy & Advanced Manufacturing Working Groups

Larry Forsley, Chief Technology Officer of Global Energy Corporation

Dyan Finkhousen, CEO of Shoshin Works; Ecosystemic Model Advisor for NASA and Space Force

Series Hosts

Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center

Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works

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75. Future, TBD

What happens when industrial design meets strategic foresight?

Lucy Ziegler, founder of TBD Futures and former McKinsey design strategist, reveals how leaders can transform business uncertainty into opportunity. Through scenario planning and design thinking, she demonstrates why the future isn't something to predict—it's something to design.

Highlights:

Why traditional forecasting falls short in today's complex business landscape
How design thinking unlocks strategic foresight for better decision-making
Breaking free from quarterly pressures to build long-term vision
Turning your worst-case scenarios into competitive advantages
Case study: How an EV company in Latin America transformed market uncertainty into strategy

Guest

Lucy Ziegler, Founder, TBD Futures

Host:

Marco Annunziata, Co-Founder, Annunziata + Desai Partners

Series Hosts:

Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center

Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works