
Don't Call Me Resilient - Trailer, Season 3
05/16/22 • 2 min
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Season 3 episodes launch May 18, 2022!
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Season 3 episodes launch May 18, 2022!
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Will Smith's Oscar slap reveals fault lines as he defends Jada Pinkett Smith against Chris Rock
It felt like these Oscars were the first ones that weren’t actually so white. The whole event felt different. With attempts to display a more inclusive Hollywood, the showcase seemed to go beyond its usual tokenism.
But there was the Will Smith-Chris Rock fiasco taking attention away from all this. In what became one of the most infamous moments in the history of the Oscars, Smith got out of his seat to slap Rock for a bad joke aimed at Jada Pinkett Smith.
These flashpoints are always about other things – they are evidence of a layered story. In this case, it’s a story that’s divided people. Is it a story about toxic masculinity? It is a story of intergenerational trauma? Is it about a Black man standing up for Black women?
In this special episode of Don’t Call Me Resilient, we discuss this moment as a cultural flash point. We chat about how “the slap heard around the world” is evidence of a layered story of racism, sexism, power and performance. Will Smith’s violent behaviour towards Chris Rock raises questions about toxic masculinity and also reveals the fault lines of a man who is perhaps still wrestling with his traumatic past.
Even though we’re not ready to start rolling out our regular season which we plan to do in May, we couldn’t wait to talk about this cultural moment, so we produced this special episode.
Our guest is Cheryl Thompson, assistant professor in Performance at the School of Creative Industries, Ryerson University, where she looks at race and representation. Thompson is the author of Beauty in a Box about the politics of Black women and beauty, as well as Uncle: Race, Nostalgia and Loyalty. She’s also the Director of the Media Representation and Archives Lab at Ryerson.
Thompson was the guest of our very first episode of Don’t Call Me Resilient, where we had a fascinating conversation about the n-word. If you have not heard that one, please check it out.
Read Thompson's new article:
Jada Pinkett Smith and Black women’s hair: History of disrespect leads to the CROWN Act
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Unmarked graves of 215 Indigenous children were found in Kamloops a year ago: What's happened since?
**Warning: This episode contains details that some listeners may find distressing**
It's been a year since the unmarked graves of 215 Indigenous children — some of them as young as three years old — were found on the grounds of the former Kamloops Indian Residential School in British Columbia. In this episode, Vinita speaks to Veldon Coburn, assistant professor at the Institute of Indigenous Research and Studies at the University of Ottawa about what happened, the widespread grief and outcry and the immediate political response, but also, how none of that lasted despite communities continuing to find bodies. Joining Vinita on the episode is Haley Lewis, Don't Call Me Resilient producer and culture and society editor at The Conversation Canada. Lewis is mixed Kanyen'keha:ká from Tyendinaga and led our coverage of the findings last year.
Show notes:
https://theconversation.com/unmarked-graves-of-215-indigenous-children-were-found-in-kamloops-a-year-ago-whats-happened-since-podcast-182728
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