
Dr. Tom Mahnken: Going Nuclear - Submarines, AUKUS and Great Power Competition
09/28/21 • 58 min
Dr. Thomas Mahnken is President and CEO of the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments. He currently serves as a member of the Congressionally-mandated National Defense Strategy Commission and as a member of the Board of Visitors of Marine Corps University.
His career in defence is extensive and includes service as Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Policy Planning. He is the author of numerous books, including The Gathering Pacific Storm: Emerging U.S.-China Strategic Competition in Defense Technological and Industrial Development.
MIsha Zelinsky caught up with Tom to discuss all things nuclear subs, including why this is was the right call for Australia, the significance of the AUKUS agreement, restoring diplomatic relations with the French, how Australia can get subs before 2038 to avoid capability gaps, the lessons from historic great power competition and what total technological competition with the Chinese Communist Party looks like.
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Dr. Thomas Mahnken is President and CEO of the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments. He currently serves as a member of the Congressionally-mandated National Defense Strategy Commission and as a member of the Board of Visitors of Marine Corps University.
His career in defence is extensive and includes service as Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Policy Planning. He is the author of numerous books, including The Gathering Pacific Storm: Emerging U.S.-China Strategic Competition in Defense Technological and Industrial Development.
MIsha Zelinsky caught up with Tom to discuss all things nuclear subs, including why this is was the right call for Australia, the significance of the AUKUS agreement, restoring diplomatic relations with the French, how Australia can get subs before 2038 to avoid capability gaps, the lessons from historic great power competition and what total technological competition with the Chinese Communist Party looks like.
Please keep rating and reviewing the show! We ranked 7th in our category this month, so thank you for your ongoing support.
If you have a question you'd like Misha to answer, send it through to us on any of our social media channels or directly to Misha.
Show notes:
CSBA reports can be found here: www.csbaonline.org
Follow on CSBA on Twitter: @CSBA_
Follow Misha and the Show here: @mishazelinsky @diplomates.show
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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