
Samy Karim Head of Business Development at Binance BNB Chain on State of DeFi
08/08/22 β’ 57 min
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Samy Karim has a unique vantage point of the state of DeFi from his position within the Binance organisation.
In our discussion, I ask him about changes he has seen post the change in market regime since may of this year, both on the user side and also on the developer side.
The BNB chain (formally Binance Smart Chain) is the biggest chain by TVL outside of Ethereum so from my perspective I want to be up to speed with development in that area. They are well funded obviously and according to Samy, has a strong desire to build an ecosystem that stands the test of time.
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Samy Karim Twitter πhttps://twitter.com/cryp7omaxi
BNB Chain - π https://www.bnbchain.org/en
BNB Chain MVB Program π https://www.bnbchain.org/en/bsc-mvb-program
Nick Drakon Twitter π https://twitter.com/NickDrakon
Defi Sparks Podcast Twitter π https://twitter.com/DefiSparks
Defi Sparks Podcast π https://www.defisparks.com/
Samy Karim has a unique vantage point of the state of DeFi from his position within the Binance organisation.
In our discussion, I ask him about changes he has seen post the change in market regime since may of this year, both on the user side and also on the developer side.
The BNB chain (formally Binance Smart Chain) is the biggest chain by TVL outside of Ethereum so from my perspective I want to be up to speed with development in that area. They are well funded obviously and according to Samy, has a strong desire to build an ecosystem that stands the test of time.
π Useful Links π
Samy Karim Twitter πhttps://twitter.com/cryp7omaxi
BNB Chain - π https://www.bnbchain.org/en
BNB Chain MVB Program π https://www.bnbchain.org/en/bsc-mvb-program
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Bryan Gross Founder of ICHI on Evaluating DeFi Business Models - DEX, Stabe Coins & Lending
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ICHI Protocol π https://ichi.org/
Bryan Gross is the founder of the ICHI suite of DeFi products and has worked at both Amazon & IBM in the last decade. In this episode we aim to give an honest and frank account of where DeFi stands in the content of the 3 main business models deployed.
We dive into what has or has not worked as well as some diagnosis around reasons for certain outcomes. We also talk about what Bryan thinks may happen next both in terms of potential consolidation but also further innovation.
The business models we discuss are:
βΊ Exchange via Decentralised Exchanges (DEX)
βΊ Stable coin issuance
βΊ Lending
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Eitan Katz Founder of Kima Finance on Multi Chain DeFi & Interoperability
Today I am talking to Eitan Katz who is the founder of Kima Finance, a utility specific blockchain that aims to act as a settlement layer in a chain agnostic world. Put simply, they are working on the DLT Interoperability problem set.
Eitan has been working at the cutting edge of technological innovation for over 35 years. He is a pleasure to talk to not just because of his wealth of knowledge but also for his talent in unpacking complex concepts in ways that everyone can understand.
Todayβs topic is of course DLT Interoperability. We start with defining this concept and discuss why it is such a difficult problem to solve. We discuss the risks associated with current solutions for moving assets between chains such as bridges. We dive into the idea of universal liquidity across chains and what the implications are of achieving that goal. Finally we ponder a world where off chain liquidity can seamlessly merge with on chain liquidity.
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Kima Finance Twitter πhttps://twitter.com/kimafinance
Kima Finance π https://kima.finance/
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