
Nassim N. Taleb: Everything these idiots, frauds, and assholes don't understand
02/09/21 • 107 min
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Nassim Taleb, what a mensch. He's got the confidence of a bull in a china shop that has just bought a lycra muscle-shirt and knows it looks great on him.
Our guru this week has surveyed the fields of statistics, economics, psychology, actually all of the social sciences, and finds them populated by a gaggle of pale, thin wristed, pocket-protector wearing wimps. Although, he's equally scathing towards COVID-sceptical libertarians, and Matt and Chris (in a totally unbiased manner) find him pretty funny and accurate there.
More seriously, Taleb is a smart guy and quite fun to read and listen to. But he's also an infinite singularity of arrogance and hyperbole. Matt and Chris can't help but notice how convenient this pose is, when confronted with difficult-to-handle rebuttals.
Taleb is a fun mixed bag of solid and dubious claims. But it's worth thinking about the degree to which those solid ideas were already well... solid. Many seem to have been known for decades even by all the 'morons, frauds and assholes' that Taleb hates.
To what degree does Taleb's reputation rest on hyperbole and intuitive-sounding hot-takes? Will he ever un-block the co-hosts on twitter? Should Matt, a statistician and psychologist, re-train in a field where he can actually contribute something useful to the world?
All of these questions, and more, will remain unanswered in this fresh new DTG episode!
Links
- The Antidote to Chaos interview discussed in the episode
- The original Bloomberg interview that was deemed too reasonable for the episode
- Sam Harris' amusing take on Taleb
Nassim Taleb, what a mensch. He's got the confidence of a bull in a china shop that has just bought a lycra muscle-shirt and knows it looks great on him.
Our guru this week has surveyed the fields of statistics, economics, psychology, actually all of the social sciences, and finds them populated by a gaggle of pale, thin wristed, pocket-protector wearing wimps. Although, he's equally scathing towards COVID-sceptical libertarians, and Matt and Chris (in a totally unbiased manner) find him pretty funny and accurate there.
More seriously, Taleb is a smart guy and quite fun to read and listen to. But he's also an infinite singularity of arrogance and hyperbole. Matt and Chris can't help but notice how convenient this pose is, when confronted with difficult-to-handle rebuttals.
Taleb is a fun mixed bag of solid and dubious claims. But it's worth thinking about the degree to which those solid ideas were already well... solid. Many seem to have been known for decades even by all the 'morons, frauds and assholes' that Taleb hates.
To what degree does Taleb's reputation rest on hyperbole and intuitive-sounding hot-takes? Will he ever un-block the co-hosts on twitter? Should Matt, a statistician and psychologist, re-train in a field where he can actually contribute something useful to the world?
All of these questions, and more, will remain unanswered in this fresh new DTG episode!
Links
- The Antidote to Chaos interview discussed in the episode
- The original Bloomberg interview that was deemed too reasonable for the episode
- Sam Harris' amusing take on Taleb
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Special Episode: Interview with Thi Nguyen, a Gurometer's Guru
Today we talk to C. Thi Nguyen, a philosophy professor at University of Utah.
He has some excellent insights into the kind of discourse that *feels* like it gives us insight, that wonderful 'aha' moment. Basically, what happens when unscrupulous actors aim to optimise that feeling - putting aside concerns as to whether or not it's the real thing.
Thi has previously studied 'moral outrage porn', which is a bit like food porn, but for your emotions.
You might say "X-porn" is any material that gives us the fascimile of the thing, without having to put in the hard yards of actually doing the thing.
You might also say there's such a thing as 'insight porn' and maybe that's what Gurus deliver!
Matt and Chris feel like they got some real insights (touch wood) from their chat with Thi and they hope you do too!
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More from Thi Nguyen:
Thi writes about many things, including echo chambers, epistemic bubbles and the seductive feeling of clarity.
- A free preview of the first chapter of Thi's Games book
- Moral outrage porn
- The op-ed version of moral outrage porn
- The echo chambers paper
- How Twitter Gamifies Communication
- Recommendation from Thi: The best book on Echo Chambers
- Another recommendation: A great recent book arguing for the large-scale misinformation thesis: and it’s open access.
- Thi's appearance on ETV pod discussing Cheap Talk.
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Special Episode: Interview with Matthew Remski on Conspirituality
Today we talk to Matthew Remski, co-host of the Conspirituality podcast, writer, yoga practitioner, and independent journalist.
Matthew is a font of information on the alternative spirituality and health and wellness spheres and he gives Matt and Chris a crash course on the dynamics of those spheres.
We discuss a range of topics including the growing overlap between spirituality and right wing politics, the enlightened locker room dynamics of male influencers, the role of invented traditions and the spirituality sphere and why Matt should grovel at the feet of his muscle master.
Matthew provides a wealth of insight into the gurus we've examined as well as an entire host of new characters. As ever, we greatly enjoyed the chat and hope you do too!
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More from Matthew Remski:
- Matthew's Personal Website
- The Conspirituality Podcast
- Matthew's work on Medium
- His investigative book on Pattabhi Jois’s Ashtanga community
- Another great interview with Matthew by Stephen Kesting
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