
Debate 2 - Stop Making Students Memorize Math
02/03/22 • 55 min
Should students be asked to memorize in math class? Listen as two teams of two–with Dr. Mandi Tolen, Dr. Raj Shah, Liesl McConchie, and Geoff Krall–debate the purpose and reality of memorization. How much or what should you have your students memorize? Our guests hope to help you answer that question as they debate this episode’s resolution: Stop making students memorize math!
Resources Referenced in this Episode:
- Building Fact Fluency by Graham Fletcher and Tracy Johnston Zager
- Prime Climb game - Math for Love
- Follow Dr. Mandi Tolen on Twitter: @MandiTolenEDU. Websites: Make Math Not Suck & Infinitely Teaching
- Follow Dr. Raj Shah on Twitter:@drrajshah, Websites: DrRajShah.com & Math Plus Academy
- Follow Liesl McConchie on Twitter: @LieslMcconchie, Website: Math with the Brain in Mind
- Follow Geoff Krall on Twitter: @geoffkrall, Website: Emergent Math
- Both Raj & Liesl mentioned their courses on Grassroots Workshops
- Geoff Krall mentioned his book Necessary Conditions
Listened to the episode? Now, it’s your turn to vote! Go to our Twitter: @DebateMathPod to cast a vote.
Don’t forget to check out the video version of this podcast on our YouTube channel!
Keep up with all the latest info by following @DebateMathPod or going to debatemath.com. Follow us @Rob_Baier & @cluzniak. And don’t forget to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts!
Listened to the episode? Now, it’s your turn to share! Go to our BlueSky: @DebateMath to share your thoughts.
Don’t forget to check out the video version of this podcast on our YouTube channel!
Keep up with all the latest info by following @DebateMath or going to debatemath.com. Follow us @Rob_Baier & @cluzniak. And don’t forget to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts!
Should students be asked to memorize in math class? Listen as two teams of two–with Dr. Mandi Tolen, Dr. Raj Shah, Liesl McConchie, and Geoff Krall–debate the purpose and reality of memorization. How much or what should you have your students memorize? Our guests hope to help you answer that question as they debate this episode’s resolution: Stop making students memorize math!
Resources Referenced in this Episode:
- Building Fact Fluency by Graham Fletcher and Tracy Johnston Zager
- Prime Climb game - Math for Love
- Follow Dr. Mandi Tolen on Twitter: @MandiTolenEDU. Websites: Make Math Not Suck & Infinitely Teaching
- Follow Dr. Raj Shah on Twitter:@drrajshah, Websites: DrRajShah.com & Math Plus Academy
- Follow Liesl McConchie on Twitter: @LieslMcconchie, Website: Math with the Brain in Mind
- Follow Geoff Krall on Twitter: @geoffkrall, Website: Emergent Math
- Both Raj & Liesl mentioned their courses on Grassroots Workshops
- Geoff Krall mentioned his book Necessary Conditions
Listened to the episode? Now, it’s your turn to vote! Go to our Twitter: @DebateMathPod to cast a vote.
Don’t forget to check out the video version of this podcast on our YouTube channel!
Keep up with all the latest info by following @DebateMathPod or going to debatemath.com. Follow us @Rob_Baier & @cluzniak. And don’t forget to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts!
Listened to the episode? Now, it’s your turn to share! Go to our BlueSky: @DebateMath to share your thoughts.
Don’t forget to check out the video version of this podcast on our YouTube channel!
Keep up with all the latest info by following @DebateMath or going to debatemath.com. Follow us @Rob_Baier & @cluzniak. And don’t forget to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts!
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Debate 1 - The Great Trapezoid Debate
Welcome to the Great Trapezoid Debate! Listen as Zak Champagne and Shelby Strong debate the definition of a trapezoid. Are you #TeamInclusive or #TeamExclusive? Our guests dive into the details of the geometric definitions of quadrilaterals and discuss the importance of spending time in the nuance.
See our YouTube Channel for the video version of this episode!
Resources Referenced in this Episode:
- Chris Luzniak’s book Up for Debate!
- An explanation of Oxford Style debate structure
- Berkeley Everett and his #TeamInclusive/#TeamExclusive shirts.
- NCTM Trapezoid Debate Session
- Follow Shelby on Twitter: @StrongerMath or @Sneffleupagus. Website: https://www.strongermath.com/
- Follow Zak on Twitter: @zakchamp, Website: www.zakchamp.com
Listened to the episode? Now, it’s your turn to vote! Go to our Twitter: @DebateMathPod to cast a vote.
Don’t forget to check out the video version of this podcast on our YouTube channel!
Keep up with all the latest info by following @DebateMathPod or going to debatemath.com. Follow us @Rob_Baier & @cluzniak. And don’t forget to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts!
Listened to the episode? Now, it’s your turn to share! Go to our BlueSky: @DebateMath to share your thoughts.
Don’t forget to check out the video version of this podcast on our YouTube channel!
Keep up with all the latest info by following @DebateMath or going to debatemath.com. Follow us @Rob_Baier & @cluzniak. And don’t forget to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts!
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Debate 3 - Let Them Use Notes
Should students be allowed to use notes on a math test? Listen as two teams of students debate the pros and cons of using notes on tests. What is fair to have on a notecard? What types of assessments should have notes? Our guests hope to help you answer these questions as they debate this episode’s resolution: Let Them Use Notes!
Listened to the episode? Now, it’s your turn to vote! Go to our Twitter: @DebateMathPod to cast a vote.
Don’t forget to check out the video version of this podcast on our YouTube channel!
Keep up with all the latest info by following @DebateMathPod or going to debatemath.com. Follow us @Rob_Baier & @cluzniak. And don’t forget to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts!
Listened to the episode? Now, it’s your turn to share! Go to our BlueSky: @DebateMath to share your thoughts.
Don’t forget to check out the video version of this podcast on our YouTube channel!
Keep up with all the latest info by following @DebateMath or going to debatemath.com. Follow us @Rob_Baier & @cluzniak. And don’t forget to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts!
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