
Supporting self-regulation in K-12 kids (with Lisa Navarra)
05/10/23 • 54 min
“Behavior problems” are an external sign of what’s going on internally.
In order to support kids who are being referred for behavioral concerns, we need to address these internal skills proactively.
That’s why I invited consultant and educator Lisa Navarra to episode 111 of the De Facto Leaders podcast to talk about self-regulation.
Lisa M. Navarra, M.S. in Special Education, SDA, award-winning educator and published author of children’s books, music, and teacher resources provides professional development and individual services teaching the “how to learn” skills for children who struggle learning and self-regulating.
Lisa has been invited to speak at schools, libraries, and organizations where she has transformed resistant learners into students who learn the skills in how to focus and believe in themselves! Lisa’s dedication to supporting schools and families extends beyond her books and resources and includes her podcast, “Student Success Beyond Expectations” Podcast. Click here to learn more: https://childbehaviorconsulting.com/podcasts/
In this interview, we discuss:
✅Common misconceptions surrounding behavior problems and the role of internal regulation.
✅How to make sure kids get support across their day; including on the bus and in the hallways.
✅What to do when stimming is seen as a behavior problem, and how to help kids get sensory needs met and self-advocate.
You can connect with Lisa on her website here: https://childbehaviorconsulting.com/
Follow her on Instagram: http://@lisanavarraedu or on
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ChildBehaviorConsulting
You can find her podcast here: https://childbehaviorconsulting.com/podcasts/ or listen to episodes on her Youtube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@childbehaviorconsulting1650
In this episode, I mentioned my Executive Functions Implementation Guide that shares how school therapists can lead their IEP teams in providing mental health, behavioral, and social skills support for K-12 kids.
You can download this free resource here: https://drkarendudekbrannan.com/efschools
We’re thrilled to be sponsored by IXL.
IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:
- Simplify and streamline technology
- Save teachers’ time
- Reliably meet Tier 1 standards
- Improve student performance on state assessments
🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.
“Behavior problems” are an external sign of what’s going on internally.
In order to support kids who are being referred for behavioral concerns, we need to address these internal skills proactively.
That’s why I invited consultant and educator Lisa Navarra to episode 111 of the De Facto Leaders podcast to talk about self-regulation.
Lisa M. Navarra, M.S. in Special Education, SDA, award-winning educator and published author of children’s books, music, and teacher resources provides professional development and individual services teaching the “how to learn” skills for children who struggle learning and self-regulating.
Lisa has been invited to speak at schools, libraries, and organizations where she has transformed resistant learners into students who learn the skills in how to focus and believe in themselves! Lisa’s dedication to supporting schools and families extends beyond her books and resources and includes her podcast, “Student Success Beyond Expectations” Podcast. Click here to learn more: https://childbehaviorconsulting.com/podcasts/
In this interview, we discuss:
✅Common misconceptions surrounding behavior problems and the role of internal regulation.
✅How to make sure kids get support across their day; including on the bus and in the hallways.
✅What to do when stimming is seen as a behavior problem, and how to help kids get sensory needs met and self-advocate.
You can connect with Lisa on her website here: https://childbehaviorconsulting.com/
Follow her on Instagram: http://@lisanavarraedu or on
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ChildBehaviorConsulting
You can find her podcast here: https://childbehaviorconsulting.com/podcasts/ or listen to episodes on her Youtube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@childbehaviorconsulting1650
In this episode, I mentioned my Executive Functions Implementation Guide that shares how school therapists can lead their IEP teams in providing mental health, behavioral, and social skills support for K-12 kids.
You can download this free resource here: https://drkarendudekbrannan.com/efschools
We’re thrilled to be sponsored by IXL.
IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:
- Simplify and streamline technology
- Save teachers’ time
- Reliably meet Tier 1 standards
- Improve student performance on state assessments
🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.
Previous Episode

Empathy, masking, and situational awareness
Do autistic people experience empathy?
Does masking cause trauma?
How do we help neurodivergent kids form relationships in a way that’s accepting of their differences?
These are questions that I get from clinicians on a regular basis that I’ve also wondered about myself.
That’s why when I created The School of Clinical Leadership, I made sure to include research and strategies to help guide clinicians through answering these questions.
In episode 110 of the De Facto Leaders podcast, I’m sharing a recording that comes directly from the School of Clinical Leadership course library.
In the video, I’ll cover why teaching situational awareness is so important for social relationships and self-advocacy, and why it’s a skill that can help clinicians navigate the nuances of effective and affirming intervention.
This episode is taken directly from the School of Clinical Leadership, my program that helps K-12 clinicians provide executive functioning support for their caseloads. You can learn more about the program here: https://www.drkarendudekbrannan.com/clinicalleadership
We’re thrilled to be sponsored by IXL.
IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:
- Simplify and streamline technology
- Save teachers’ time
- Reliably meet Tier 1 standards
- Improve student performance on state assessments
🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.
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How to "lead up" to your school administrator (with Jethro Jones)
What do you do if your school administrator doesn’t fully understand your role and your expertise?
What if you have the information and knowledge they need to drive important decisions for your school? How can you get them to listen to your input?
If you’re a therapist, educator, or aspiring school leader, these questions may have popped into your head from time to time.
If that’s the case, it might feel like your boss (or maybe even your boss’s boss) has all the power.
But what if that wasn’t the case?
What if you could step into a leadership role NOW and be an advisor to those who are “technically” your superiors?
This is called “leading up”.
In episode 112 of the De Facto Leaders podcast , I invited Jethro Jones on to talk about how to be a leader, no matter your job title.
Jethro Jones, is a national award-winning former school leader, podcaster, and author of the books "How to be a Transformative Principal" (click here to read more: https://www.amazon.com/How-Transformative-Principal-Jethro-Jones/dp/1915261090) and "SchoolX: How principals can design a transformative school experience for the people right in front of them! (click here to read more: https://www.amazon.com/SchoolX-principals-transformative-experience-themselves/dp/1913622118). He is also the founder of the BE Podcast Network (click here to learn more: https://bepodcast.network/ ), the best educational podcast network out there. Jethro currently consults school leaders on strategies to help them save time, lead more effectively, and overcome their own weaknesses. Jethro has worked as a principal at all K-12 levels, including a prison school, a district coach, distance learning team lead, and English teacher.
In this conversation, he shares:
✅How to “lead up” to your school administrator when they need your input on programming decisions (even if they don’t realize it yet).
✅How to “lead out” to other people on your team, even if they’re resistant to changing their practices.
✅How to make a case to your school leader for more resources and support, even if it’s not in the budget.
You can connect with Jethro Jones on LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jethrojones/, and listen to the Transformative Principal Podcast or learn more about how to work with Jethro on his website here: https://www.jethrojones.com/ You can also learn more about the BE podcast network for aspiring school leaders here: https://bepodcast.network/
You can take the quiz on how to level up in your career as an educator/leader here: https://moveup.transformativeprincipal.com/?utm_source=dfl
You can listen to the School AI podcast where we discuss AI, interdisciplinary units, and executive functioning featuring Dr. Karen here: https://youtu.be/KqUzRRKQvO8
In this episode, I mentioned my free online training for K-12 therapists who want to offer social and academic support that’s evidence-based and neurodiversity-affirming. You can sign up for that free training here: https://drkarendudekbrannan.com/efleadership
We’re thrilled to be sponsored by IXL.
IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:
- Simplify and streamline technology
- Save teachers’ time
- Reliably meet Tier 1 standards
- Improve student performance on state assessments
🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.
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