
Your data is a mesh
09/18/24 • 45 min
Remember the exciting days of data mesh not so long ago? A lot of organizations saw the potential of domain-owned data, federated governance, self-service platforms, and data as a product. Then ChatGPT hit the market, and everybody got distracted. Now the concepts are back, with a vengeance.
Our guest of today, Pavel Doležal, indeed acknowledges it. He is a trailblazer in the world of startups focusing on data platforms, data management, and innovative data products. As the visionary co-founder and CEO of self-service data platform Keboola, Pavel brings his deep insight into leveraging the power of AI alongside the benefits of data mesh. Join us for his fascinating discussion with our hosts Weiwei, Robert and Ron where you'll also dive into the intriguing world of Norwegian black metal, explore the mysteries of the Cargo Cult, and uncover valuable data wisdom passed down through generations.
Timestamps:
01:05 – Ron and Robert dive into a discussion on "Black Metal”!
05:50 – How did the name "Keboola" originate?
10:34 – Discussion on the concept of data mesh.
32:41 - Have you heard of the term "Cargo Cult"?
40:12 - Myth busting with Weiwei.
Connect with our guest Pavel Doležal and our hosts Ron Tolido, Robert Engels, and Weiwei Feng on LinkedIn.
Remember the exciting days of data mesh not so long ago? A lot of organizations saw the potential of domain-owned data, federated governance, self-service platforms, and data as a product. Then ChatGPT hit the market, and everybody got distracted. Now the concepts are back, with a vengeance.
Our guest of today, Pavel Doležal, indeed acknowledges it. He is a trailblazer in the world of startups focusing on data platforms, data management, and innovative data products. As the visionary co-founder and CEO of self-service data platform Keboola, Pavel brings his deep insight into leveraging the power of AI alongside the benefits of data mesh. Join us for his fascinating discussion with our hosts Weiwei, Robert and Ron where you'll also dive into the intriguing world of Norwegian black metal, explore the mysteries of the Cargo Cult, and uncover valuable data wisdom passed down through generations.
Timestamps:
01:05 – Ron and Robert dive into a discussion on "Black Metal”!
05:50 – How did the name "Keboola" originate?
10:34 – Discussion on the concept of data mesh.
32:41 - Have you heard of the term "Cargo Cult"?
40:12 - Myth busting with Weiwei.
Connect with our guest Pavel Doležal and our hosts Ron Tolido, Robert Engels, and Weiwei Feng on LinkedIn.
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Timestamps:
01:55 – Ron and Robert discuss “Punk Rock”!
07:08 – AI conversation with Arijit Sengupta
24:42 - Wittgenstein’s philosophy
30:19 - AI myth busting with Weiwei
Connect with our guest Arijit Sengupta and our hosts Ron Tolido, Robert Engels, and Weiwei Feng on LinkedIn.
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Data diversity is woke
Get ready for a compelling discussion on diversity in data! Expanding perspectives always uncovers fresh insights and new opportunities—and this is especially true in the world of data. Joining us is Jennifer Belissent, Principal Data Strategist at Snowflake, whose career journey embodies diversity itself. From Peace Corps volunteer to academic researcher, market analyst at Forrester, Jennifer brings a wealth of unique experiences to the table.
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Timestamps:
00:20 – Ron and Robert kick off a conversation about "Jazz."
08:26 – Exploring the topic of diversity in data.
20:32 – Snowflake’s vision to harness global data.
31:03 – Myth busting session with Weiwei.
39:17 – Jennifer shares her thoughts on "Women in Data."
Connect with our guest Jennifer Belissent and our hosts Ron Tolido, Robert Engels, and Weiwei Feng on LinkedIn.
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