S1 E4: The Story of Cryptoart (Andrew Steinwold & Josie Bellini)

01/24/22 • 38 min

In this episode of DAOn the Rabbit Hole, we’re talking to Andrew Steinwold and Josie Bellini. Andrew is an investor at Sfermion and Josie is a crypto artist and designer. They’re here to talk about NFTs from the perspectives of a creator and an investor.

Josie talks about transitioning from a background in finance to becoming an artist. They both share their experiences entering the blockchain space and how Josie convinced Andrew of the importance of NFT art.

The two talk about what the NFT scene was like back in 2017, before it exploded into the mainstream, and how it’s progressed over time. They also talk about the community aspect of crypto and NFTs, and where they think the space as a whole will go over the next few years and beyond, along with some potential future challenges.

Andrew also shares some current NFT projects that he finds exciting, along with what he’d like to see created in the future.

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Andrew also shares some current NFT projects that he finds exciting, along with what he’d like to see created in the future.

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S1 E3: Debunking Common DeFi Myths (DeFi Dave)

In this episode of DAOn the Rabbit Hole, we’re talking to DeFi Dave. He hosts the DeFi Scoop podcast, and he’s here to debunk a few of the more common myths about decentralized finance.

Dave talks about his first experiences with DeFi and some of the misconceptions he had early on. He starts by discussing the common preconception that crypto is a tool for criminals and drug dealers, and how people (incorrectly) worry about the security of their crypto assets.

We talk about the ideas that crypto is a purely speculative asset with no real utility, that crypto is too volatile and risky to replace traditional banking, and that crypto is reserved for tech bros and wealthy people.

Dave also tears into the common myth (on both sides) that crypto is only for conservatives, or only for liberals. He explains why crypto is not a threat to democracy, or necessarily bad for the environment.

Is crypto a cult? Dave addresses this popular notion, too, along with the common assertion that crypto will never replace cash and fiat money, and that it’s not valid as a store of value.

To continue this conversation and stay up to date on all things DAOn the Rabbit Hole, you can follow Diana on Twitter @ddwchen, Anay @anay_sim, and RabbitHole @rabbithole_gg. You can follow our guest, DeFi Dave, on Twitter @davesaidthat_.

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S1 E5: Building the Ownership Economy Together (Li Jin)

In this episode of DAOn the Rabbit Hole, we’re talking to Li Jin, Co-Founder and General Partner at Variant Fund as well as a podcaster, writer, and educator. Li’s here to talk about DAOs and the creator economy.

Li tells us about her journey into crypto investing from her background in venture capital and defines what is meant by terms like the ownership economy and creator economy. She talks about the “Web 3.0 Renaissance” and how decentralization can reward creators.

We talk about 100 True Fans, the idea that the value of attention is more important than the amount of attention. Li talks about how DAOs and community ownership fit into the new creator economy.

Can the ownership economy help tackle wealth inequality and reconfigure the relationship between capital and labor? Li dives into this topic. She also shares some examples of communities that are doing a great job of co-creating and co-owning with fans.

We discuss some of the potential challenges facing community ownership, and things that could go wrong. Li shares some of the reasons creators might hesitate about joining the Web 3.0 economy. Finally, Li shares her thoughts on what the creator economy could look like ten years from now.

To continue this conversation and stay up to date on all things DAOn the Rabbit Hole, you can follow Diana @ddwchen, Anay @anay_sim, and RabbitHole @rabbithole_gg on Twitter. You can also follow our guest, Li Jin, on Twitter @ljin18.

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