
Are Turtles War Machines? AI-Enabled Cybersecurity Has an Answer
09/21/22 • 44 min
AI-enabled security can process data faster and more accurately than humans, but can it tell the difference between turtles and rifles? We answer this question and more as we cover AI-enabled cybersecurity for network defense, insider threat, and user privacy, including considering whether AI ethics are simply business ethics. We also discuss asymmetric uses for nation-states on both offensive and defensive postures and AI-enabled malware and social engineering. Dani concludes with a deep dive into "Fog Reveal" a law enforcement cellphone tracking tool that'll make you squirm.
- The Verge - Google's AI Thinks Turtles are Rifles: https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/2/16597276/google-ai-image-attacks-adversarial-turtle-rifle-3d-printed
- Forbes - Ukrainian Drones Strike Russian Artillery: https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2022/09/02/ukraines-drones-are-back-and-blowing-up-russian-artillery/?sh=71b8f8946b8f
- DefenseNews - Torch.AI wins DoD Contract for Insider Threat Detection: https://www.defensenews.com/cyber/2022/08/15/torchai-wins-pentagon-insider-threat-cybersecurity-contract/
- Lawfare - AI and National Security: https://www.lawfareblog.com/recent-developments-ai-and-national-security-what-you-need-know
- Oxford Internet Institute ‘Trusting Artificial Intelligence in Cybersecurity is a Double-Edged Sword’
- National Security Commission on Artificial Intelligence Final Report: https://www.nscai.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Full-Report-Digital-1.pdf
- AP Report on Fog Reveal: https://apnews.com/article/technology-police-government-surveillance-d395409ef5a8c6c3f6cdab5b1d0e27ef
AI-enabled security can process data faster and more accurately than humans, but can it tell the difference between turtles and rifles? We answer this question and more as we cover AI-enabled cybersecurity for network defense, insider threat, and user privacy, including considering whether AI ethics are simply business ethics. We also discuss asymmetric uses for nation-states on both offensive and defensive postures and AI-enabled malware and social engineering. Dani concludes with a deep dive into "Fog Reveal" a law enforcement cellphone tracking tool that'll make you squirm.
- The Verge - Google's AI Thinks Turtles are Rifles: https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/2/16597276/google-ai-image-attacks-adversarial-turtle-rifle-3d-printed
- Forbes - Ukrainian Drones Strike Russian Artillery: https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2022/09/02/ukraines-drones-are-back-and-blowing-up-russian-artillery/?sh=71b8f8946b8f
- DefenseNews - Torch.AI wins DoD Contract for Insider Threat Detection: https://www.defensenews.com/cyber/2022/08/15/torchai-wins-pentagon-insider-threat-cybersecurity-contract/
- Lawfare - AI and National Security: https://www.lawfareblog.com/recent-developments-ai-and-national-security-what-you-need-know
- Oxford Internet Institute ‘Trusting Artificial Intelligence in Cybersecurity is a Double-Edged Sword’
- National Security Commission on Artificial Intelligence Final Report: https://www.nscai.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Full-Report-Digital-1.pdf
- AP Report on Fog Reveal: https://apnews.com/article/technology-police-government-surveillance-d395409ef5a8c6c3f6cdab5b1d0e27ef
Previous Episode

Crypto & Lowrise Jeans: Cybersecurity on the Blockchain
What do Cryptocurrency and the 90's have in common? Easily exploitable bugs and also Paris Hilton, apparently.
We cover the state of regulation and cybersecurity within the blockchain and cryptocurrency space - covering environmental, democratization, and equity concerns, as well as user vs. system security, code audits and minimum standards. Corinna Fehst (MPP'18 and crypto strategy expert) makes a surprise guest appearance. Bethan talks about whether you should post your laptop screen on BeReal [spoiler alert, please don't].
Show Notes:
- Corinna Fehst: https://www.belfercenter.org/person/corinna-fehst
- Security:
- Scams:
- Exploiting vulnerabilities in smart contracts/wallets/code:
- Money laundering / enabler of illegal activity:
- DeFi Is the Wild West of Banking and Investing. Here's What Crypto Investors Should Know
- Crypto Crime Trends for 2022: Illicit Transaction Activity Reaches All-Time High in Value, All-Time Low in Share of All Cryptocurrency Activity - Chainalysis
- Mid-year Crypto Crime Update: Illicit Activity Falls With Rest of Market, With Some Notable Exceptions - Chainalysis
- https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/18/china-is-second-biggest-bitcoin-mining-hub-as-miners-go-underground.html
Next Episode

Your Data is Oozing: How the US Government Accesses Citizens' Data Using Consumer AdTech
Bloomberg - FTC Sues Mobile Data Broker Over Abortion Location Data Sale https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-08-29/ftc-sues-mobile-data-broker-over-abortion-location-data-sales?sref=P6Q0mxvj&leadSource=uverify%20wall
Vice - Data Broker Is Selling Location Data of People Who Visit Abortion Clinics https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7vzjb/location-data-abortion-clinics-safegraph-planned-parenthood
Forbes - Black Lives Matter Protestors Tracked by Secretive Phone Location Technology https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2020/06/26/secretive-phone-tracking-company-publishes-location-data-on-black-lives-matter-protesters/?sh=77520f5f4a1e
AP - Tech Tool Offers Police ‘Mass Surveillance on a Budget’ https://apnews.com/article/technology-police-government-surveillance-d395409ef5a8c6c3f6cdab5b1d0e27ef
AP - Across the US, Police Offers Abuse Confidential Databases https://apnews.com/article/699236946e3140659fff8a2362e16f43
Wired - WhatsApp Has Shared Your Data with Facebook for Years Actually https://www.wired.com/story/whatsapp-facebook-data-share-notification/
Gizmodo - Rights Groups Say the Pentagon is Buying its Way Around the Fourth Amendment https://gizmodo.com/rights-groups-say-pentagon-buys-freedom-from-fourth-ame-1849604210
Gizmodo - The American Data Privacy Act Would Be a Bipartisan Triumph - If It Could Pass https://gizmodo.com/can-american-data-privacy-protection-act-pass-1849413911
Gizmodo - Congresswoman Urges FTC to Investigate Newly Revealed Police Software Surveilling Americans’ Movements https://gizmodo.com/congresswoman-ftc-to-investigate-fog-data-science-softw-1849547432
Brookings - The FTC Can Rise to the Privacy Challenge, but Not Without Help from Congress https://www.brookings.edu/blog/techtank/2019/08/08/the-ftc-can-rise-to-the-privacy-challenge-but-not-without-help-from-congress/
Berkman Klein Center and Minnesota Law Review - Understanding Chilling Effects https://cyber.harvard.edu/story/2021-06/understanding-chilling-effects
PEN America - Chilling Effects: NSA Surveillance Drives US Writers to Self-Censor https://pen.org/research-resources/chilling-effects/
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