#32 Preston Martin & Aleksa Burmazovic | The Incredible World Of Special Economic Zones
07/04/21 • 112 min
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Both Preston & Aleksa work for the Special Economic Zone consultancy firm, The Adrianople Group, of which Preston is a co-founder. We covered so much in this chat – most notably, what are special economic zones? I wrote an article explaining, in brief, an introduction to these phenomena of globalisation and multinational trade, but it is in this conversation I had with Preston & Aleksa that the true depth of Special Economic Zones starts to be realised.
Over 60% of the world's trade runs through a Special Economic Zone and these are spaces whose regulations fall outside of the state's regulations within the country they are housed. So you can immediately see a story of tax evasion and exploitation. But this is to quick and un-nuanced a look at things, it turns out Special Economic Zones (like many things) are subject to both the good and the bad, and things of such complexity are worth thinking about.
My favourite part of the chart was all of it! But that doesn’t help you point out highlights. So in short I would say the following three subjects make up the best parts of the conversation.
- The Philosophy Of Special Economic Zones
- China & It’s History With Special Economic Zones
- Defining Special Economic Zones Through Real-Life Examples
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- 00:00 – Introduction
- 08:11 – Defining & Understanding Special Economic Zones (SEZ)
- 14:15 – Examples Of Special Economic Zones.
- 27:30 – If It Can Work In An SEZ, Why Can’t It Work Nation Wide?
- 38:00 – Explaining What Alex & Preston Do With SEZ’s.
- 43:45 – A Terrific Example For How An SEZ Might Come Into Business.
- 46:50 – The Fascinating History Of SEZ’s In China.
- 55:26 – Explaining China’s Middle Income Trap.
- 57:53 – A Fascinating Explanation Of Chinese Communism – The Mandate Of Heaven.
- 1:00:35 – China’s Belt & Road Initiative Wrapped Into SEZ’s.
- 1:13:53 – An Explanation Of Debt Trap Diplomacy.
- 1:16:50 – Specific SEZ Chat On China’s BRI.
- 1:24:41 – The Good & The Bad Matrix For Special Economic Zones.
- 1:29:49 – Onto The Philosophy Of SEZ’s
- 1:47:50 – What Country Are You Most Bullish On Looking Into The Future?
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Listen To This Interview As A Podcast Instead🎙️: https://atlasgeographica.com/interview-special-economic-zones/
Both Preston & Aleksa work for the Special Economic Zone consultancy firm, The Adrianople Group, of which Preston is a co-founder. We covered so much in this chat – most notably, what are special economic zones? I wrote an article explaining, in brief, an introduction to these phenomena of globalisation and multinational trade, but it is in this conversation I had with Preston & Aleksa that the true depth of Special Economic Zones starts to be realised.
Over 60% of the world's trade runs through a Special Economic Zone and these are spaces whose regulations fall outside of the state's regulations within the country they are housed. So you can immediately see a story of tax evasion and exploitation. But this is to quick and un-nuanced a look at things, it turns out Special Economic Zones (like many things) are subject to both the good and the bad, and things of such complexity are worth thinking about.
My favourite part of the chart was all of it! But that doesn’t help you point out highlights. So in short I would say the following three subjects make up the best parts of the conversation.
- The Philosophy Of Special Economic Zones
- China & It’s History With Special Economic Zones
- Defining Special Economic Zones Through Real-Life Examples
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- 00:00 – Introduction
- 08:11 – Defining & Understanding Special Economic Zones (SEZ)
- 14:15 – Examples Of Special Economic Zones.
- 27:30 – If It Can Work In An SEZ, Why Can’t It Work Nation Wide?
- 38:00 – Explaining What Alex & Preston Do With SEZ’s.
- 43:45 – A Terrific Example For How An SEZ Might Come Into Business.
- 46:50 – The Fascinating History Of SEZ’s In China.
- 55:26 – Explaining China’s Middle Income Trap.
- 57:53 – A Fascinating Explanation Of Chinese Communism – The Mandate Of Heaven.
- 1:00:35 – China’s Belt & Road Initiative Wrapped Into SEZ’s.
- 1:13:53 – An Explanation Of Debt Trap Diplomacy.
- 1:16:50 – Specific SEZ Chat On China’s BRI.
- 1:24:41 – The Good & The Bad Matrix For Special Economic Zones.
- 1:29:49 – Onto The Philosophy Of SEZ’s
- 1:47:50 – What Country Are You Most Bullish On Looking Into The Future?
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- 06:54 – Donald Bradman (Greatest Cricketer Of All Time)
- 10:43 – UK & Australia Pissing Off Their Main Trading Partners
- 14:24 – On Geographical Determinism
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Big Mike Salbro is one of the last people forcibly taken from their mother’s arms as a member of the stolen generation.
Mike’s story is full of twists, turns, tragedies and inspiration. He was adopted at just a few months old from a lovely Swedish woman and shortly after moved to Stockholm. Mike, alongside his brother (also Aboriginal and adopted in Brisbane) then grew up in Sweden coming through Swedish schools and the entire Swedish system.
Mike has now returned to Australia. Brisbane specifically and now works as a social worker after going through his journey in the social system supporting young indigenous people of Australia.
This chat meant a lot to me. Big Mike is a legend. I hope you enjoy it the same. Spread it far and wide and leave positive reviews.
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- 00:00 – Introduction
- 01:35 – Mike’s Speaking Swedish
- 04:40 – Mike’s Journey Begins
- 07:59 – Mike’s Birth – The Last Of The Stolen Generation
- 15:05 – Mike Being Taken From His Mother
- 25:59 – Adoption & Life In The Foster Home
- 29:54 – Mike’s Swedish Mother
- 37:35 – Mike’s Swedish Childhood
- 41:55 – Horrible Anecdote About Macquarie
- 46:35 – On Being The Only Black Boy Around
- 53:00 – When Big Mike Found Out He Was Aboriginal
- 1:01:35 – Mike’s Troubles With Alcohol & The Law
- 1:06:35 – Mike Returning To Australia
- 1:16:35 – On Mike Meeting His Birth Mother
- 1:19:35 – Mike Returning To Sherberg
- 1:29:35 – Mike Ask’s Me What I Am Doing In Sweden
- 1:32:55 – What Big Mike Is Up To Now
- 1:48:15 – What Do You Miss Most From Sweden?
- 1:50:15 – What Is Something Sweden Can Use From Australia & Vice Versa?
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The Geopolitics & Power Podcast - This is my brand new podcast where we will cover everything from giant infrastructure projects, to natural resources, to other interesting stuff!
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