Crypto With Accountants

Patrick White & Trevor Ward

Crypto with Accountants is a podcast dedicated to helping accountants learn more about the world of digital assets, cryptocurrencies, NFTs, DeFi, and other blockchain-based technologies. In each episode, our hosts and their guests dive deep into the debits and credits of crypto accounting. If you are an accountant, bookkeeper, controller, CFO, CPA, or tax preparer, this podcast is for you.

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Blockchain's Potential to Disrupt Accounting

Crypto With Accountants

03/31/23 • 57 min

In this episode, our guest, Dr. Sean Stein Smith, CPA shares his thoughts on how blockchain technology is set to change the world of accounting, bookkeeping, and auditing. Rafael, Pat, and Dr. Sean also discuss the need for good accounting standards in the crypto space and the challenges faced by regulators while adopting them.

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Chapters

(00:00) - CWA E4
(00:39) - Background on Guest Dr. Sean Stein Smith
(08:00) - Where you surprised when FASB said they were rethinking their standards?
(17:16) - When does the FDICget involved?
(23:42) - Thoughts on the FTX collapse
(32:04) - What are your lessons or takeaways from FTX?
(48:06) - Things to expect in blockchain in 2023
(56:33) - How to contact Dr. Sean Stein Smith

Connect with our guest, Dr. Sean Stein Smith
linkedin.com/in/dr-sean-stein-smith-dba-cpa-63307444/
twitter.com/SeanSteinSmith
Connect with Pat
linkedin.com/in/patwhite
twitter.com/patwhite

Connect with Rafael
linkedin.com/in/rafaelcasas
twitter.com/RafaelCasasBW

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"Must Have" Features in Crypto Accounting Software

Crypto With Accountants

03/17/23 • 45 min

Pat and Rafael dive into Bitwave's recent blog post about "must have" features crypto accounting software should contain in order to ensure compliance with the Financial Accounting Standards Board's (FASB) proposed new accounting rules for organizations holding crypto and digital assets.

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Chapters

(00:00) - Crypto With Accountants Episode 03
(00:20) - Introduction and what this episode will cover
(03:16) - Implementation and customer success
(10:43) - What Multi Subsidiary can provide customers
(12:38) - Why the "Banking hours" has no correlation with Cryptocurrencies
(17:18) - Why is FP&A so important to Crypto?
(25:47) - How money is sensitive in the blockchain world?
(34:59) - Expense Reporting
(41:00) - Security in the crypto world
(44:11) - NFT Paris

Connect with Pat
linkedin.com/in/patwhite
twitter.com/patwhite

Connect with Rafael
linkedin.com/in/rafaelcasas
twitter.com/RafaelCasasBW

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What it Means to be a Crypto CFO or Controller

Crypto With Accountants

05/18/23 • 44 min

Patrick, Rafael, and Emily Cheshire of Aprio discuss the audit readiness of cryptocurrency companies, treasury management, forecasting and controller practices.

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Chapters

(00:00) - What it Means to be a Crypto CFO or Controller
(01:44) - What got you interested in Crypto?
(04:51) - What is Aprio?
(09:54) - What is the best advice for someone embarking on their controller journey?
(15:07) - What does it mean to be a Crypto CFO?
(20:21) - Is there any advice you can give on what banks will actually work with crypto companies?
(26:22) - How have you been thinking about TAM in the market?
(30:09) - What potential have you seen in the digital assets regarding CAS practices?
(31:01) - What is the bootcamp like for new accountants?
(36:15) - What do you think about your roles and responsibilities as a controller?
(41:25) - Do you use GAAP Lite for all your clients to document everything?
(42:51) - How to contact Emily

Connect with our guest, Emily Cheshire
linkedin.com/in/emilycheshireaca
Connect with Pat
linkedin.com/in/patwhite
twitter.com/patwhite

Connect with Rafael
linkedin.com/in/rafaelcasas
twitter.com/RafaelCasasBW

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The Past, Present and Future of Digital Assets - Libby Schultz

Crypto With Accountants

08/03/23 • 59 min

Pat White and Trevor Ward chat with crypto expert Libby Schultz about the evolution of digital assets from gaming microtransactions to NFTs, the regulatory challenges facing the crypto industry, and Libby's upcoming sci-fi book exploring the future of crypto and blockchain technology. They discuss the SEC lawsuits against Coinbase and Binance, tips for accountants entering the web3 space, and the launch of Bitwave University.

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Connect with Libby
linkedin.com/in/ekschultz
https://linktr.ee/fintechfairy

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linkedin.com/in/patwhite
twitter.com/patwhite
bitwave.io/

Connect with Trevor
linkedin.com/in/trevorwardcpa/
bitwave.io/

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(00:00) - Welcome Libby to the show and some of her background
(01:51) - What got you into crypto?
(06:49) - Is there a future with micro-transactions in crypto?
(11:42) - How does accounting work for micro-transactions in the gaming industry?
(18:30) - What has changed with micro-transactions over the years?
(34:11) - What is an NFT?
(35:47) - Wha other projects have you worked on?
(42:02) - What are your thoughts on the SEC lawsuits towards Binance and Coinbase?
(50:41) - What are some practical tips for accountants looking to get into Web3?
(53:59) - What prompted to Libby create courses for Bitwave University?
(56:04) - What is Libby's new book about and where to reach her?

Enterprise Blockchain's True Potential - Niamh O'Connell

Crypto With Accountants

08/10/23 • 46 min

Blockchain is far more than crypto! We interviewed Niamh O'Connell of Casper Labs about how enterprises can take advantage of blockchain for data integrity, automation, transparency and more. We discussed supply chain, healthcare, financial services use cases and why combining blockchain and AI makes sense.

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Connect with Niamh
linkedin.com/in/niamhoconnell1
http://casperlabs.io

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twitter.com/patwhite
bitwave.io/

Connect with Trevor
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bitwave.io/

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(00:33) - Welcome Niamh to the show
(01:53) - Can you tell us a little about Casper Labs
(03:44) - What specific problems is Casper solving?
(06:12) - Can you explain a little more of the mechanics of being both public and private?
(07:12) - What are some examples of the use cases for this?
(08:08) - Quick 101 on smart contracts
(12:17) - Can you tell us about some customers and what they've built on Casper?
(15:30) - Why would someone want to tokenize a lease agreement?
(17:08) - How should businesses think about network types?
(21:20) - How do the economics work with these hybrid blockchains?
(24:26) - Does Casper focus more on one side than the other? Permissioned vs permissionless
(26:12) - How does Casper approach the common blockchain trilemma
(33:38) - How are you seeing businesses use NFT's?
(37:00) - What are you thoughts on the broader crypto market?
(38:46) - Are you seeing anything interesting in the AI and blockchain space?
(45:18) - Final thoughts and where to reach Niamh and Casper Labs

ESG and DEI Policies and Strategy

Crypto With Accountants

06/28/23 • 48 min

In this episode, Donny Shimamoto, Mathew Heggem, and Alla Koretsky join Bitwave's Patrick White, Amy Kalnoki, and Trevor Ward to discuss the different elements of ESG and DEI policies and also talk strategy.

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Chapters

(00:35) - Introducing the panelists for today's podcast
(04:07) - What are we seeing change in the great resignation of the accounting industry?
(07:40) - How has hiring changed in recent years? What are recruiters looking for?
(15:57) - Do you have any advice, when interviewing, about encouraging diversity of thought and opinions in the question-making stage?
(18:45) - Alla's thoughts on the lack of effort encouraging DEI in the crypto and Web3 industries
(27:39) - The environmental effects of crypto and ESG
(35:10) - What are some challenges with ESG in the accounting profession?
(40:59) - Challenges from the COO's perspective regarding hiring and environmental issues?

Connect with our guests
Amy Kalnoki

linkedin.com/in/amykalnoki/
bitwave.io/Matthew Heggem

10kcreators.com
linkedin.com/in/mathewheggem
Donny Shimamoto
intraprise.us
linkedin.com/in/donnyitk

Alla Koretsky
heylayer.com
linkedin.com/in/alla-koretsky

Connect with Pat
linkedin.com/in/patwhite
twitter.com/patwhite
bitwave.io/

Connect with Trevor
linkedin.com/in/trevorwardcpa/
bitwave.io/

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Unlocking Institutional Adoption of Crypto

Crypto With Accountants

03/03/23 • 61 min

Nick Sanschagrin, the Head of Institutions and DeFi with Chainstack.com, joins Rafael Casas and Patrick White, to discuss unlocking the potential of crypto with custodianship, security, and segregation of duties. They also discuss how has the crypto-custodianship landscape changed over time, and the implications the FTX debacle has for institutional adoption of crypto.

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Links mentioned in this episode

The Enterprise Digital Asset Summit

Chapters

Connect with Pat
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Connect with Rafael
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Full transcript available upon request.

I'm an Engineer and I Really Like Accountants

Crypto With Accountants

02/03/23 • 59 min

Special guest Ron Quaranta joins Rafael Casas and Patrick White to kick off the first episode of the Crypto With Accountants podcast. They cover the early history of fintech, emergence or crypto, and the creation of a trade association - Wall Street Blockchain Alliance. Pat also predicts what he thinks will be the hot crypto trend in summer 2023...

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Links mentioned in this episode
Wall Street Blockchain Alliance
The Enterprise Digital Asset Summit

Chapters

(00:00) - Introduction and some background on Pat and Ron
(04:21) - Accountants today are very innovative
(07:42) - Bitwave's first major partners were small sole proprietors
(09:32) - Ron, how did you get into the crypto space?
(16:51) - What is the WSBA Digital Asset Industry Principles Initiative
(20:35) - Old phrases and bridging the current world with the wolrd we're trying to get to
(29:15) - How martial arts lessons translate to business and life
(35:03) - What's going to happen with with the regulatory enviornment with crypto?
(46:10) - Transparency in crypto will transfer to banks as well
(49:48) - What is currently inspiring you in this space?
(54:31) - FTX had nothing to do with crypto?
(56:10) - Wrap up and where to reach Ron & find out more about Bitwave

Connect with Pat
linkedin.com/in/patwhite
twitter.com/patwhite

Connect with Rafael
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The Debits and Credits of Crypto Accounting and Digital Assests

Crypto With Accountants

02/01/23 • 0 min

Accountants and financial professionals stay ahead of the curve in the ever-changing world of digital assets, cryptocurrencies, NFTs, DeFi, and other blockchain-based technologies. Your hosts Rafael Casas and Patrick White will be your guides into the debits and credits of crypto accounting.... providing you with quality insights, from experienced industry experts, on topics like impairment, DeFi accounting, crypto tax tracking, and more.

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Creating Compliant Accounting Records From Complex Crypto Transactions

Crypto With Accountants

04/14/23 • 47 min

In this episode, Pat White and Rafael Casas interview Mackenzie Patel, CEO of Hash Basis, a crypto-native accounting firm based in San Francisco. Mackenzie shares her accounting background and how she got into crypto accounting. They also discuss the challenges of revenue accounting in crypto and the emerging trend of specialized crypto accounting.

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Chapters

(00:00) - Preview: What does Hash Basis do?
(00:50) - Introduction and welcome Mackenzie to the show
(02:04) - A little bit of Mackenzie's background
(04:24) - Did you instantly love accounting?
(10:39) - What did you do after college?
(11:47) - What does revenue accounting look like in crypto?
(13:58) - Are you seeing more accountants who specialize in crypto accounting?
(18:32) - How did you get into crypto specifically?
(20:40) - Can you walk us through some fundamentals of crypto accounting?
(28:31) - What is streaming payroll and payments?
(31:53) - What resources do you do to stay up to date on crypto and crypto accounting?
(34:51) - FASB guidance has come out
(35:31) - What do you think about wrapped tokens now being counted as impaired?
(42:08) - Tell us about your new company, Hash Basis
(44:14) - Mackenzie will be speaking at EDAS
(46:13) - Thanks for listening and please subscribe for new episodes