The conversation starts with John finding some Christian pamphlets called "The Candy Cane Story" that were left at his business. He asks Elliot if he's familiar with the religious symbolism ascribed to candy canes. Elliot says he is, so John has him read through the pamphlet, which suggests candy canes were invented by a candy maker to be a Christian symbol. They look up the actual history and determine this story is likely false propaganda.
This leads to a broader discussion about religious persecution and evangelism. John shares his expertise in evaluating data on global religious persecution. He critiques common anecdotal claims of persecution. Elliot discusses patterns in Christian evangelism. They talk about how some religious groups assert cultural ownership over traditions and symbols.
The conversation explores Christian nationalism, secularization of Christmas, Muslim views on celebrating Christmas, living as a religious minority, and more. They poke fun at some religious ideas but also seek nuance regarding respecting different faiths.
12/18/23 • 65 min
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